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Re:Why Silicon Valley can’t fix itself by baxtr on Friday May 04, 2018 @02:38AM (#16992643)
Don’t worry. I believe breaking the internet up back into small parts is a going to be a big trend in the coming years.
Re:Why Silicon Valley can’t fix itself by dvfjsdhgfv on Friday May 04, 2018 @02:46AM (#16992670)
Breaking the internet? No. Breaking huge near-monopolies into smaller companies - I'd love to see it happen, but it never will.
Re:Why Silicon Valley can’t fix itself by vertexFarm on Friday May 04, 2018 @02:51AM (#16992690)
It happened, but they conglomerated back together. And they captured all the regulatory bodies this time.

We are going to have to get creative or settle in and prepare for an eternal reaming.

Re:Why Silicon Valley can’t fix itself by s2g on Friday May 04, 2018 @02:59AM (#16992718)
yeah, they learned from Microsoft's mistakes.

You have to pay the bribes.

Re:Why Silicon Valley can’t fix itself by icebraining on Friday May 04, 2018 @03:14AM (#16992767)
I don't remember Microsoft being broken up.
Re:Why Silicon Valley can’t fix itself by adventured on Friday May 04, 2018 @03:22AM (#16992796)
They got lucky. Thomas Penfield Jackson ordered the company broken up. The Bush Administration is plausibly the only reason Microsoft remained one company.

June 7th, 2000:

"A federal judge today ordered Microsoft Corp. split into two companies, prescribing the biggest corporate breakup since AT&T while harshly rebuking the software giant for stifling computer-age competition. "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20000607/aponl...

Then Microsoft and the DOJ made a deal on November 2nd 2001. Bush won the Presidency November 7th 2001. It's very likely the Clinton DOJ made a deal to ensure all of their hard work - indeed their victory - couldn't be easily reversed by the dramatically more business friendly Bush Administration if he were to win.

http://time.com/3553242/microsoft-monopoly/

Re:Why Silicon Valley can’t fix itself by robotresearcher on Friday May 04, 2018 @11:37AM (#16995382)
Yahoo has already broken itself into smaller companies. It was a giant* not so long ago.

(*at the time, when the sector was much smaller)

Re:Why Silicon Valley can’t fix itself by kakwa_ on Friday May 04, 2018 @01:55PM (#16996674)
In truth they broke themselves into smaller companies due to the concurrence of an even bigger monopoly: Google.

This was a bit of an accident really.

Maybe one day big companies with monopolistic tendencies will be broken-up. But it will be a long and hard process.

Look at the Standard Oil monopoly of the late XIXe/early XXe century, it took decades to break it up, even with laws against it.

When the break-up will happen, I see two ways this could happen:

* either break by activity (separate AWS and Amazon, Gmail, Youtube and Search in Google, etc)

* break each service in a way to form a distributed system shared by several companies

For example, split Google Search with part of the search index and engine distributed across several companies, and each companies having their own offer in term of UI design, data privacy, additional functionalities, plugged on this shared index.

Re:Why Silicon Valley can’t fix itself by robotresearcher on Friday May 04, 2018 @04:41PM (#16998120)
Grandparent said "it will never happen". You and I agree that it will happen. We both presented examples.
Re:Why Silicon Valley can’t fix itself by baxtr on Friday May 04, 2018 @04:18AM (#16993003)
That’s what I meant, but I think it won’t happen through regulation but through new companies
Re:Why Silicon Valley can’t fix itself by Retra on Friday May 04, 2018 @08:43AM (#16994094)
New companies that will threaten established ones without being bought out by them?
Re:Why Silicon Valley can’t fix itself by zeth___ on Friday May 04, 2018 @03:24AM (#16992800)
I've started using hidden services a lot more recently.

They remind me of the internet I remember from 1998-2006.

I wouldn't say it's the 'old' internet, because I wasn't alive for the supposed glory days of arpanet, but it definitely has the sleazy, probably illegal, never say who I am irl vibe I remember and miss.

Re:Why Silicon Valley can’t fix itself by mettamage on Friday May 04, 2018 @03:33AM (#16992837)
What kind of hidden services? You mean stuff like Tor?
Re:Why Silicon Valley can’t fix itself by mantas on Friday May 04, 2018 @04:03AM (#16992947)
Probably talking more about obscure forums, blog and tiny webshops. Just like a decade+ ago.
Re:Why Silicon Valley can’t fix itself by zeth___ on Friday May 04, 2018 @04:43AM (#16993129)
Tor, freenet, i2p.
Re:Why Silicon Valley can’t fix itself by realusername on Friday May 04, 2018 @05:09AM (#16993208)
Freenet definitively has a old-school feeling, I'm subscribed to their mailing list and I just wish the project wasn't plagued by a lot of internal fights.
Re:Why Silicon Valley can’t fix itself by catach on Friday May 04, 2018 @03:21AM (#16992793)
I'm curious why you think that, since I don't see any mass-scale incentive pointing in that direction.
Re:Why Silicon Valley can’t fix itself by baxtr on Friday May 04, 2018 @04:19AM (#16993011)
It's a hunch. People are not happy the way it is now, at least people on the fringes. Technology allows for disintegration and decentralized services today
Re:Why Silicon Valley can’t fix itself by krageon on Friday May 04, 2018 @04:53AM (#16993168)
Technology has allowed it basically forever. The trouble is they're annoying to use, so nobody does.