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Re:I've spent the last two years building a new email client by brandonwamboldt on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @06:12AM (#16975520)
I prefer VS Code over native alternatives. Don't conflate your anecdotal evidence with facts. Many users don't know much RAM a process consumes or what an Electron app is, they just care about what the app can do, how fast it is, etc.
Re:I've spent the last two years building a new email client by coldtea on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @06:57AM (#16975735)
>I prefer VS Code over native alternatives.

That's because, as the parent said, there are no good (e.g. equivalent) native alternatives.

If there was a native editor with feature parity with VS Code (including the number of plugins and dedicated MS resources speeding up its development, and free), nobody would be using it.

Re:I've spent the last two years building a new email client by croon on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @07:22AM (#16975848)
> If there was a native editor with feature parity with VS Code (including the number of plugins and dedicated MS resources speeding up its development, and free), nobody would be using it.

Is it possible that VS Code (for example) exists (in its feature specific incarnation ) only because Electron is a cost cutter in terms of portable development?

In other terms: Maybe the portable native full featured VS Code is the middle of the cheap-fast-good venn diagram.

Re:I've spent the last two years building a new email client by coldtea on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @09:19AM (#16976554)
>Is it possible that VS Code (for example) exists (in its feature specific incarnation ) only because Electron is a cost cutter in terms of portable development?

It could -- though I doubt it.

But I was concerned with a more limited question: if there was a good VS Code alternative that's native, would many still prefer an Electron version?

Re:I've spent the last two years building a new email client by croon on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @09:41AM (#16976742)
> But I was concerned with a more limited question: if there was a good VS Code alternative that's native, would many still prefer an Electron version?

I understood what you meant. I respect you disagreeing with my premise, but in the scenario where that premise is true, your question is not applicable.

Scenario: Would anyone choose MDF boards at IKEA if they could choose plywood or natural wood, or assemble their own furniture if given the choice (at the same price)? Barring a few applications, probably not. But IKEA wouldn't be IKEA if they were just another producer of wood furniture, meaning they got to market and stayed there because of the shortcuts and limitations they could justify when reaching a price.

Same thing here (IMHO). VS Code could have some cross-platform code and some platform specific code, but the cost would be higher and the output velocity would likely be lower. Assuming that is true, your question is misleading, albeit not on purpose.

Re:I've spent the last two years building a new email client by Chico75 on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @10:07AM (#16976987)
Most people wouldn't care unless there was a performance difference between the two.
Re:I've spent the last two years building a new email client by rootlocus on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @07:25AM (#16975871)
> That's because, as the parent said, there are no good (e.g. equivalent) native alternatives.

There is sublime text.

Re:I've spent the last two years building a new email client by coldtea on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @09:20AM (#16976567)
Which is what I use. But ST3 doesn't have the full power of a 20+ strong MS team behind it, but a single person (and another hired to help here and there), and so doesn't have the same momentum -- and it's getting behind in features as well.
Re:I've spent the last two years building a new email client by rootlocus on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @11:45AM (#16978053)
I never kept tabs on the development effort on neither VSCode nor Sublime Text, but it was always my impression that much of the power either editor has comes from 3rd party extensions rather than the editor core. As such, I believe it was the hype around Atom and VSCode that drove people to write extensions for them, leaving ST behind.
Re:I've spent the last two years building a new email client by coldtea on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @03:53PM (#16980581)
>but it was always my impression that much of the power either editor has comes from 3rd party extensions rather than the editor core

A lot of it, yes. But VSCode also invests a lot in core functionality (in what in other platforms would be plugins). The Git integration is one such example -- or the ability to debug Chrome in it.

Re:I've spent the last two years building a new email client by IncRnd on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @11:02AM (#16977530)
>>I prefer VS Code over native alternatives.

>That's because, as the parent said, there are no good (e.g. equivalent) native alternatives.

But that's not true. I use Sublime Edit and have happily used BBEdit and TextMate. Emacs is fine for many people, and I still use vim for fast edits in terminal mode all the time. There are plenty of other great native editors for just about all platforms.

Re:I've spent the last two years building a new email client by LeoNatan25 on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @07:12AM (#16975804)
BBEdit is excellent. So is Notepad++.
Re:I've spent the last two years building a new email client by mihaela on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @08:09AM (#16976139)
I prefer Sublime Text.