Re:TIC-80, a fantasy computer to learn programming
by wooly_bully on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @11:06PM
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Celeste, which was released to rave reviews this past year for the Switch, started life as a PICO-8 game. I played it on the PICO-8 at first and was blown away!
Re:TIC-80, a fantasy computer to learn programming
by krajzeg on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @03:49AM
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PICO-8 (and I assume, TIC-80 as well) are actually great for prototyping bigger game development projects - specifically due to its harsh constraints, which force a limited scope and sharp focus on the design.
I'm actually in the process of making SlipWays, a fast-paced 4X game for PC that started as a PICO-8 prototype (https://krajzeg.itch.io/slipways). A major reason for the tight game design of the game were the tight confines on the console.
Re:TIC-80, a fantasy computer to learn programming
by ZebraCakes on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @10:55AM
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I love SlipWays! It's really impressive that you crammed a game that deep into such a small system. That and Celeste were big inspirations to look into PICO-8 myself. Looking forward to the full release.
Re:TIC-80, a fantasy computer to learn programming
by rococode on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @01:51AM
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One of the coolest hidden easter eggs in the main release of Celeste is stumbling upon the little room with the PICO-8 version of the game (https://i.imgur.com/7iNbBNA.png). I didn't know PICO-8 was a thing, so imagine my surprise when I found an entire complete game built into the main game!
Re:TIC-80, a fantasy computer to learn programming
by shakna on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @01:24AM
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Do you know how it was ported to the Switch?
TIC-80 uses SDL, which doesn't have a working port (for the Switch) so far as I know.
Re:TIC-80, a fantasy computer to learn programming
by djur on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @01:56AM
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The commercial release of Celeste is a new game, written from scratch, implemented in C# (XNA/FNA/MonoGame). It includes a port of the original. I'm kind of curious if they actually wrote a PICO-8 emulator for that or just ported it to C#.
Re:TIC-80, a fantasy computer to learn programming
by barbs on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @03:07AM
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They have a Github repo with some of the source code up (mostly just stuff to do with character movement and control).
https://github.com/noelfb/celeste
Apparently it's based on this framework:
https://bitbucket.org/MattThorson/monocle-engine/src/default...
Re:TIC-80, a fantasy computer to learn programming
by AlyssaRowan on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @08:33AM
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They ported the PICO-8 version line by line to C#. Since there aren't that many lines, apparently it wasn't that hard.
Re:TIC-80, a fantasy computer to learn programming
by doppp on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @05:19AM
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There is an SDL port for the Switch but it's under NDA and you need to request access for it [1].
Re:TIC-80, a fantasy computer to learn programming
by theresistor on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @01:45AM
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There's an SDL port, but it can't be publicly distributed due to NDAs.
Re:TIC-80, a fantasy computer to learn programming
by TimTheTinker on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @11:07PM
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Boy, wouldn’t it be fun if there was a Z80-based retro console with an 8-bit color screen and easy access from modern machines (USB, etc)?
Re:TIC-80, a fantasy computer to learn programming
by zokier on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @02:26AM
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Something like FAP80 maybe?
Re:TIC-80, a fantasy computer to learn programming
by gpdpocketer on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @09:23AM
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Amstrad CPC with a HxC card...
Re:TIC-80, a fantasy computer to learn programming
by lloeki on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @02:28AM
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To me it seems that trend started somewhere along with Notch's dcpu16 and assorted virtual hardware from 0x10c.
Re:TIC-80, a fantasy computer to learn programming
by rtpg on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @02:32AM
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Pico 8 and Voxatron (its predecessor/3d succesor) both predate the 0x10c experiment I believe.
Re:TIC-80, a fantasy computer to learn programming
by lloeki on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @03:09AM
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Hmm, I can only trace PICO-8 as far back as late 2014, while 0x10c happened in 2012. However Lexaloffle likes to label it, Voxatron is hardly a fantasy console, it's a voxel game engine (with fantasy console features retrofitted in later on).
Re:TIC-80, a fantasy computer to learn programming
by _b8r0 on Wednesday May 02, 2018 @04:57AM
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That's interesting. I'm currently building a Chip-8 emulator using an Atmega1284, keypad and SSD1306.
What ram chip are you using? I've been looking at 23K640 but it's proving a nightmare to get running on a breadboard.
Some are scripting language based, some emulate CPUs. TIC-80 programs are "64KB of Lua or Moonscript or JavaScript". My own is 8-bit AVR (128k rom, 64k ram). Z80 seems a popular base as well.