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Re:Berlin now home to soaring rents and rising tensions by golergka on Thursday April 26, 2018 @03:26AM (#16929618)
Renting in some place for a long time doesn't give you any leverage against another potential renters. If I want to move to Berlin and am willing to pay more than existing renters, I don't see any reason why I shouldn't be able to do so.

> Lustig pays $300 a month from her $800 disability check for the 570-square-foot apartment, located in a newly fashionable district only a mile from Tiergarten, a leafy city park that's one of Berlin's most popular.

$300 per month for even a small apartment in a good district is incredibly cheap. Why on Earth would you expect to be able to afford such a place on a disability check?

Re:Berlin now home to soaring rents and rising tensions by adrianN on Thursday April 26, 2018 @03:48AM (#16929771)
Many people believe that renting a place for a long time should give you leverage over potential renters. Because it's cruel to rip someone from the place they've lived in for decades, especially if they're older and its hard for them to integrate into a different city or a different district. The people living in a place for a long time are also responsible for making the community attractive in the first place. Local culture depends on the inhabitants.
Re:Berlin now home to soaring rents and rising tensions by StudentStuff on Thursday April 26, 2018 @03:37AM (#16929675)
It seems you don't understand how renting works in Germany. Tenants have rights very similar to what property owners have in the US, and have the equivalent of California's Proposition 13 to ratecap their rent (just like how property taxes get ratecapped in California).

Its quite refreshing to see a different perspective on housing, as it isn't a fungible commodity like you suggest, where the dollar is the ultimate arbiter. People build their lives around where they live and make deep investments in their community. Some artificial "free" market that is terribly dysfunctional (and irrational) like we have here in the US is a poor choice when most of your society isn't landed gentry.

Re:Berlin now home to soaring rents and rising tensions by ginko on Thursday April 26, 2018 @03:45AM (#16929744)
>Renting in some place for a long time doesn't give you any leverage against another potential renters.

In Europe? Yes it does. If you're a longtime renter in Vienna for example it's almost impossible for the landlord to raise your rent or get you evicted. There's some decades-old contracts with renters paying 200-300€ for a 100m² apartment. These can even be passed on to family.

Re:Berlin now home to soaring rents and rising tensions by moopling on Thursday April 26, 2018 @03:40AM (#16929697)
It's clearly a social argument, along the lines of: why should you get to live there just because you earn more?

It comes down to what you think money is for. In Europe the general consensus is that there are constraints the effects money should have.

Re:Berlin now home to soaring rents and rising tensions by sqidyyy on Thursday April 26, 2018 @03:37AM (#16929673)
tbh this is a very bad example. $300 (247€) for 570 square-foot (53m²) are just not realistic for a city like Berlin. The real price for such an appartment (in that district) is around 700-800€.

Not to be "that guy" with the unpopular opinion here, but I'm not even sure if the landlord can even cover the costs for the apartment from what she's paying.

Re:Berlin now home to soaring rents and rising tensions by jashmatthews on Thursday April 26, 2018 @05:46AM (#16930400)
The landlord knew exactly what he was getting into buying a tenanted property rented by someone on WBS social housing. Using your sister to evict your existing tenant is dodgy. I have zero sympathy for trying to game the system and getting caught out by your sister inconveniently dying.
Re:Berlin now home to soaring rents and rising tensions by sqidyyy on Friday April 27, 2018 @03:04AM (#16938942)
I couldn't find any information in the article that it's WBS social housing. It says "located in a newly fashionable district" which doesn't sound like social housing.
Re:Berlin now home to soaring rents and rising tensions by jashmatthews on Friday April 27, 2018 @10:46AM (#16941125)
It's not. I missed the 32 years bit and assumed it was WBS because she's receiving long-term disability. Either way, you can't simply buy a building and evict the tenant in Germany. The landlord knew what he was getting into.
Re:Berlin now home to soaring rents and rising tensions by IkmoIkmo on Thursday April 26, 2018 @04:02AM (#16929873)
> Renting in some place for a long time doesn't give you any leverage against another potential renters.

I disagree. I also disagree that living somewhere gives you a special-citizen's pass. It's somewhere in between. You want to give room for the market, but you also want to consider cities are a function of their neighbourhoods, their communities, the networks, the people, the bonds, shared history, local culture etc. You can't just break up an existing community for money. You need to find middle ground, let the market operate while trying to work to keep the community intact.

I mean, I know it's really easy (and cheesy) to say these words. Finding that balance is really hard, and at some point there is a trade-off between government intervention in the market or letting (sometimes vulnerable) people fend for themselves. And that isn't easy.

That having been said, $300 a month for a $60k apartment isn't little by European standards. That's a 6% rental yield, it isn't low.

Re:Berlin now home to soaring rents and rising tensions by lagadu on Thursday April 26, 2018 @03:59AM (#16929848)
> Renting in some place for a long time doesn't give you any leverage against another potential renters.

That's just not true in most of Europe. Having lived in several countries now, the laws are usually very tenant oriented: after some time landlords cannot terminate leases in most conditions and the yearly increases are regulated.