Re:Giving Up on the Current MacBook Pro Keyboard
by mcv on Friday April 27, 2018 @05:50AM
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> It's a UNIXy system, that actually works with the hardware.
You'd think there'd be a big market for an "it just works" Linux-based laptop.
Re:Giving Up on the Current MacBook Pro Keyboard
by magduf on Thursday April 26, 2018 @11:20AM
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>Oh sure, tons of "I have a perfectly working linux on x" but drilling down it always boils down to fiddling, updating, manually correcting some value somewhere, tweaking.. etc.
I've had great experiences running Ubuntu derivatives on Dell Latitude E-series, as long as they don't have Nvidia graphics. I'm sure plenty of Thinkpad owners will tell you the same.
Re:Giving Up on the Current MacBook Pro Keyboard
by madmulita on Thursday April 26, 2018 @02:47PM
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Never a problem with any of the Thinkpads I've had, mostly Debian.
With the macs? Dead batteries because of bad firmware, dead chargers because of horrible cables, 19hs upgrading the OS (each try), finally, dead motherboard. Not falling for it again.
Re:Giving Up on the Current MacBook Pro Keyboard
by shaklee3 on Thursday April 26, 2018 @10:23AM
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I have a yoga 900 and Ubuntu works perfectly out of the box. I didn't check to make sure it would work before buying it, but have been dual-booting almost since day one.
Re:Giving Up on the Current MacBook Pro Keyboard
by SuperMechaCow on Thursday April 26, 2018 @07:52AM
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I have a Dell Inspiron 17r 7720 and a Macbook made in the same year. Spec for spec they are very comparable machines, but if I had to choose I would pick the Dell every time. I've used Ubuntu on it for years with zero "fiddling" required. Windows 10 is on a physical SSD, but with one command it's configured to run on a VM in Ubuntu. Many people have gotten Mac OS to run natively on the Dell, but I decided to spend hundreds on a Macbook instead because to the enormous amount of "fiddling" it would have taken.
TL;DR: I've had the opposite experience as you.
Re:Giving Up on the Current MacBook Pro Keyboard
by mvdwoord on Thursday April 26, 2018 @09:06AM
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Sounds good, a quick scan of the reviews show lots of praise. Wondering about battery life though, and I would still need to see it for myself before I'm convinced.
I am optimistic though, seriously think that when my current macbook is up for replacement there will be a handful of capable machines with proper (HW) linux support.
For me however, lacking that positive first hand experience is what makes me keep ordering macs.. for now.
Oh sure, tons of "I have a perfectly working linux on x" but drilling down it always boils down to fiddling, updating, manually correcting some value somewhere, tweaking.. etc.
I switched to a mac some 8 years ago on the desktop and 6 years ago as my daily driver laptop. I would love to break out of the apple ecosystem for something more free but I just have not been convinced it exists yet.
With all the complaints about macos, rightfully so, quality seems to be degrading somehwat, the HW/SW combination is still unbeaten in my book. I run Fusion on it, with a Windows Server VM and Linux VM w shared homedir so I can run whatever tools best fit for the job. Only real gripe is memory limit of 16GB. Oh and the touchbar. Fuck the touchbar. Could have been nice as an addition above the Fn key row.
Now let's hope my keyboard holds out ;)