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Re:TSMC Kicks Off Volume Production of 7nm Chips by quickben on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @08:23PM (#16917825)
Well, after a while or is sort of public knowledge that 10nm Intel is about the same as 12nm AMD, etc.

But yes, the industry needs standardized advertising practices badly.

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Re:TSMC Kicks Off Volume Production of 7nm Chips by tfha on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @11:27PM (#16918455)
Uh, it's the other way around. 10nm Intel is 7nm global foundries. 22nm Intel is superior to 14nm global foundries.

Intel is the one that doesn't fudge their numbers.

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Re:TSMC Kicks Off Volume Production of 7nm Chips by km3k on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @09:20AM (#16921269)
Intel still fudges their numbers. They just fudge their numbers less than everyone else.
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Re:TSMC Kicks Off Volume Production of 7nm Chips by Valmar on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @11:06AM (#16922154)
How so?

The numbers don't seem to have much relation at all with all of the real process node numbers.

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Re:TSMC Kicks Off Volume Production of 7nm Chips by Valmar on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @08:13AM (#16920769)
Even Intel's numbers are just marketing, however.

Everyone is fudging the numbers...

SemiWiki has a good overview of Intel 10nm vs GF 7nm:

https://www.semiwiki.com/forum/content/7191-iedm-2017-intel-...

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Re:TSMC Kicks Off Volume Production of 7nm Chips by makomk on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @09:00AM (#16921103)
For a while I think it was the other way around: Intel's processes were, in practice, actually substantially less dense than their competitors at the same nominal process node size.
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Re:TSMC Kicks Off Volume Production of 7nm Chips by abakker on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @11:17PM (#16918415)
>standardized advertising practices

Oh man, I wish this would happen in any industry...sadly, advertising doesn't seem to see any benefit. Why standardize when you can differentiate?

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