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Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by decebalus1 on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @01:56PM (#16914895)
Any other details about the OS? Is it an Android? How are the applications managed and what's their update pipeline? Are they whitelisted and managed by the manufacturer's own App Store? What's the privacy policy like? How often will it issue updates?

I really like the display. I've been waiting for a phone with minimalistic display to save battery ever since the Motofone F3.

But there's way too little information there to convince me to pre-order.

Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by adhambadr on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @02:00PM (#16914941)
we def. screwed up communication as we've been focused lately on finishing hardware. its based on Android 8.1 and the apps are downloaded via play-store normally. We don't white or black list, but rather are going through the most used apps and building easier integrations for them
Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by hhsnopek on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @02:36PM (#16915341)
Will the OS be open sourced? - I'd love to get this on any android phone!
Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by ocdtrekkie on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @04:55PM (#16916483)
Awww. I was excited when I thought it might not run El Goog's cruft. :(
Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by na85 on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @05:45PM (#16916927)
What's the differentiating feature between the Blloc and all the other black rectangles that run Android?
Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by patentatt on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @07:59PM (#16917732)
looks like a custom app launcher and some matching apps for some popular APIs. Still cool, but the reality is a bit of a letdown after the initial good impression. Ultimately, having to rely on your phone maker to keep up with every relevant service's APIs and features seems like a losing game. Seems impossible to meet everyone's expectations here long term. Also, I thought/assumed it was an e-ink display at first -- that would be cool. But the app thing, it's hard. Can't really launch an appstore for a new OS, too much momentum in the established players. Ask Microsoft. Perhaps an Android phone with an E-ink display and a custom display driver/some other cool tech to make every app in the play store work with it would be cool.
Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by acct1771 on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @12:49AM (#16918696)
...does it do RSS?

I'll show myself out.

Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by otp124 on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @02:04PM (#16914987)
What's the expected battery life? I was hoping to see an average and maximum battery life described on the page, but couldn't find it.
Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by adhambadr on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @02:07PM (#16915022)
this reallly depends on usage, we wanted to send it to the real benchmarking websites when we release. I charge mine every 2 days which was a personal goal (to not get punished if I forgot to charge last night)
Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by aidenn0 on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @02:25PM (#16915211)
I don't think I've ever had a phone I needed to charge daily.
Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by webkike on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @03:22PM (#16915718)
You got into the smart phone game fairly late, or you don't use them heavily.
Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by aidenn0 on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @05:05PM (#16916574)
both apply to me.
Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by coldtea on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @03:39PM (#16915873)
Yeah, but they're not talking about bakelite models.
Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by craftyguy on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @07:39PM (#16917625)
Consider using LineageOS instead. There's nothing 'minimalist' about the crap that Google 'requires'.
Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by seabrookmx on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @12:54AM (#16918713)
How does using Lineage solve this problem?

It's the same OS, and 99% of people that install Lineage install the GApps otherwise the device is barely usable.

Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by y4mi on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @02:52AM (#16919092)
well, if you're a die-hard idealist, you could always use microG [0]

if you're not, you can still use Gapps nano or pico. thats basically just the play store and the service api.

[0] https://microg.org [1] http://opengapps.org

Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by ummonk on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @06:43PM (#16917319)
How long will you support the phone with software updates?
Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by morganvachon on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @05:48PM (#16916957)
Indeed, I'm immensely curious about the OS (I'm an unabashed OS junkie) and if it's not Android based I want one just to dig into that part of it. Beyond that, the display and the GUI are absolutely gorgeous. I was always a fan of Microsoft's flat design for Windows Phone, and this takes it to another level of minimalism. I'm drooling over here.

Edit: I see below that it's Android based after all. I still love the way it looks but it's a hard pass. :-(

Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by adhambadr on Tuesday April 24, 2018 @06:37PM (#16917278)
We had to im sorry. Its quite unrealistic for a startup to write its own OS from scratch. And there's the app topic that everyone else failed at. We always had a vision to do an open web-based (Chromium like) os when it becomes realistic.
Re:Blloc – minimalist smartphone by exikyut on Wednesday April 25, 2018 @02:11AM (#16918952)
That's basically webOS.

If you get webOS working on your hardware, you will have a small pile of very staunch supporters.

A couple of realistic caveats, and novel ideas to solve them:

1. webOS is not Android.

Android will eventually mean Fuschia, which will mean bye bye to Linux driver blobs. I'm not sure how the scene looks right now in terms of trying to squash an Android kernel and blobs together with webOS userspace. Might work, might produce rueful laughter.

One interesting thing you could do is lead a community effort to get webOS running on top of Fuschia, which is still very new but functions well enough to fully come up graphically and boot into a Chromium-based session (yep!).

To me, that suggests enough of the Fuschia core is "set" and unlikely to change that RIGHT NOW is the perfect time to quietly catch up to feature parity with alternative userspaces, and when Android does "the big switchover" (it's obvious that's the goal, Fuschia has things like 120fps update targets etc), you'll suddenly have more hardware support than any other platform.

2. webOS has no real apps.

No point denying this is true. Facebook isn't releasing a webOS app. That cements a lot of things. There's also the fact that LG bought webOS for TVs. That did nothing to kill it on phones, but the move certainly did shift all of the tech-prosumer expectancy/focus over to the TV space and leave the webOS-on-phones/tablets sector full of tumbleweeds. And nothing's really changing that.

The webOS-on-Fuschia idea would be unlikely to trigger wholesale adoption of the platform. Not going to do it.

I see a couple of alternatives:

0. You kind of get dual-boot for free anyway

1. Implement hardware-accelerated KVM for ARM on Fuschia, and run Android in a VM

2. Implement kernel-level containerization/virtualization aka what's described under "Virtualization" in http://kernelthread.com/projects/

3. Figure out how Fuschia works at the kernel level and work out how to run the webOS and Android userspaces side by side, either running simultaneously or stopping one to launch the other

(I don't typically start lists at 0, but that first point felt so obvious I used a 0 so I could include it in the list.)

You get 0 for free, and dual booting will appeal to some who want the closure of "Android is simply not running".

1 is... I included that one for comparison :)

2 and 3 seem interesting. I'd tackle these by seeing how the Fuschia team react to being engaged "from the outside". You could lead that effort; I don't think anything is being done in that regard at this point (eg unlike how Chromium does get lots of external contributions from individuals).

Well, that's my 2c anyway.