Re:Engineers Are Leaving America for Canada
by johan_larson on Friday April 20, 2018 @06:16PM
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The pay in Seattle for software developers is 100% more than in Toronto. Even second-tier US cities pay 50% more. If you're working in Toronto when you could be working in a US tech centre, I hope you have a good reason.
Market Average Annual Tech Wage Software Engineer (USD)
Vancouver, BC — $60,107
Toronto, ON — $62,365
Atlanta, GA — $92,380
Boston, MA — $103,979
Washington, DC — $108,330
New York, NY — $108,878
Seattle, WA — $113,906
Re:Engineers Are Leaving America for Canada
by conanbatt on Friday April 20, 2018 @07:21PM
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There are plenty of ways in the which immigration makes the pay cut less problematic.
1) You have a deathtimer that if you dont get the paperwork in time, or the lottery, or whatever, you can be kicked out of the country.
2) You dont enjoy the same liberties as nationals
3) you dont qualify to multiple benefits that make financials tennable (i.e. medicare taxes, college subsidies, etc)
4) Up until recently, spouses of H1B workers could not work. That is somethign that was added in 2015, and that in this administration its been talked about removing, meaning 50k people lose their legal right to a job.
5) Inherent social issues of the popular cities. San Francisco and Seattle have very high homeless populations.
So yes, there's plenty of reasons to take a pay cut, one way or the other.
Speaking from personal experience, I've seen salaries ranging from 100-120k CAD with 4 years of experience. Rent price increases as of late seem to be affecting much of the costs as well. YMMV. Tax is comparable to California as well. It's not as lucrative as USA, but public schooling is very strong in Toronto.
Re:Engineers Are Leaving America for Canada
by nyxtom on Friday April 20, 2018 @05:54PM
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I thought about this recently but based on the big cut I would end up taking it makes it basically not worth it. Living in Texas I have no state income tax on top of a tax ecosystem which is being cut I make out more just staying.
Re:Engineers Are Leaving America for Canada
by BehindBlueEyes on Saturday April 21, 2018 @01:25PM
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An interesting life story and comparison of Canadian vs. US immigration. How many of those Canadian immigrants are former US immigrants, how many are engineers...? I don't see anything supporting the claim in the title.
Market Average Annual Tech Wage Software Engineer (USD)
Source: http://www.vancouvereconomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/...1) You have a deathtimer that if you dont get the paperwork in time, or the lottery, or whatever, you can be kicked out of the country.
2) You dont enjoy the same liberties as nationals
3) you dont qualify to multiple benefits that make financials tennable (i.e. medicare taxes, college subsidies, etc)
4) Up until recently, spouses of H1B workers could not work. That is somethign that was added in 2015, and that in this administration its been talked about removing, meaning 50k people lose their legal right to a job.
5) Inherent social issues of the popular cities. San Francisco and Seattle have very high homeless populations.
So yes, there's plenty of reasons to take a pay cut, one way or the other.
Speaking from personal experience, I've seen salaries ranging from 100-120k CAD with 4 years of experience. Rent price increases as of late seem to be affecting much of the costs as well. YMMV. Tax is comparable to California as well. It's not as lucrative as USA, but public schooling is very strong in Toronto.
I'd guess Seattle is quite a bit higher.