Re:Y Combinator, Backer of Dropbox, Vaults from Experiment t...
by jey on Saturday April 14, 2018 @01:48PM
(#16838439)
Via outline.com: https://outline.com/VY5L3z
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Re:Y Combinator, Backer of Dropbox, Vaults from Experiment t...
by koolba on Saturday April 14, 2018 @02:25PM
(#16838687)
While I love the utility of it, how the hell is that website legal? It’s stated purpose is to violate copyright law?!
From the page trailer:
> Outline is a free service that makes websites more readable. We remove the clutter, like ads, related links, and comments—so you can read comfortably.
Re:Y Combinator, Backer of Dropbox, Vaults from Experiment t...
by godzillabrennus on Saturday April 14, 2018 @03:12PM
(#16838893)
I doubt it’s legs but it’s useful so it’ll get traction and then get sued.
Re:Y Combinator, Backer of Dropbox, Vaults from Experiment t...
by fsniper on Saturday April 14, 2018 @02:42PM
(#16838772)
It's not the only service that does this. Even browsers have out of the box support for some of them.
Re:Y Combinator, Backer of Dropbox, Vaults from Experiment t...
by nothrabannosir on Saturday April 14, 2018 @03:33PM
(#16839002)
Browsers don’t redistribute the content. That’s a crucial difference, much like you can video tape a broadcast and fast forward through the ads at home, but not if you run a pub.
Re:Y Combinator, Backer of Dropbox, Vaults from Experiment t...
by crx087 on Saturday April 14, 2018 @04:57PM
(#16839459)
I haven't looked at the code, but maybe this site doesn't redistribute anything, either.
And just because something's executing on the server side, that really shouldn't necessarily change the legality of it. (Hell, maybe Safari or Chrome look like they're doing it locally and tunnel data through a cache server.)
Re:Y Combinator, Backer of Dropbox, Vaults from Experiment t...
by ec109685 on Saturday April 21, 2018 @12:11PM
(#16891963)
They have a convoluted dmca take down process, which is described here and may keep them in clear?: https://www.outline.com/dmca.html
Re:Y Combinator, Backer of Dropbox, Vaults from Experiment t...
by lallysingh on Saturday April 14, 2018 @02:31PM
(#16838724)
From the latency, it looks like it doesn't cache. So it's literally transformative. If that matters, I don't know.
Re:Y Combinator, Backer of Dropbox, Vaults from Experiment t...
by fjsolwmv on Saturday April 14, 2018 @03:38PM
(#16839027)
Where did this "editing a copy makes it transformative" meme come from? Legally, transformative means "created a substantially new work" not "mechanically applied a style change that preserves all of the original content and its original value"
Re:Y Combinator, Backer of Dropbox, Vaults from Experiment t...
by woolvalley on Sunday April 15, 2018 @12:42AM
(#16841257)
By that logic adblock, readable mode, applying your own css and making the text bigger with cmd-+ is 'copyright' infringement since every modification is modifying some copy in memory.
Re:Y Combinator, Backer of Dropbox, Vaults from Experiment t...
by lallysingh on Saturday April 14, 2018 @04:22PM
(#16839269)
It's a bunch of legal laymen conjecturing on legal issues.
Re:Y Combinator, Backer of Dropbox, Vaults from Experiment t...
by briandear on Saturday April 14, 2018 @03:22PM
(#16838944)
I always wonder: how are journalists supposed to get paid when people steal their content?
Re:Y Combinator, Backer of Dropbox, Vaults from Experiment t...
by fjsolwmv on Saturday April 14, 2018 @03:39PM
(#16839033)
"Real journlaists do it for the love of their art."
Re:Y Combinator, Backer of Dropbox, Vaults from Experiment t...
by lifeformed on Saturday April 14, 2018 @04:13PM
(#16839212)
They do it for exposure.
Re:Y Combinator, Backer of Dropbox, Vaults from Experiment t...
by scarface74 on Saturday April 14, 2018 @05:47PM
(#16839714)
To bring up an old meme....
1. Journalists get exposure
2. ???
3. Profit.