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Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by sametmax on Friday April 13, 2018 @08:12AM (#16829204)
That's the geek attitude here, thinking it's a technical problem. But it's a human one, and no amount of smartness will fix it.

If you have a surveillance state, it will not "will up the game by referencing other data". It will simply make the gears illegal, and the price to pay harsh. Now you won't dare wearing them and if you do, you are guilty even if you are not a criminal, and tagging yourself as such, making it easier for the police to find you.

Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by wpietri on Friday April 13, 2018 @10:10AM (#16830117)
Yes, exactly. And another element of the geek attitude is overestimating the number of people willing to adopt a burdensome technological solution in the name of (a very particular kind of) freedom.

Most people will just accept the new surveillance reality and then act according to the state's wishes, exactly as most drivers slow down when they see a cop by the side of the road.

Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by Spooky23 on Friday April 13, 2018 @08:27AM (#16829302)
Exactly. The legal framework and precedent is not based on pervasive electronic surveillance.
Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by Aunche on Friday April 13, 2018 @11:04AM (#16830613)
If China doesn't have the resources to stop all actual crime, they certainly don't have the resources to stop people from wearing makeup, sunglasses or hats.
Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by michaelt on Friday April 13, 2018 @11:40AM (#16831040)
Depends how many people are avoiding facial recognition.

A large railway station can have 15 to 100 million passenger entries per year [1]. That means if 0.1% of people hide from facial recognition, cops at such stations could arrest 40-270 people per day. And with a suspect arrested, a photo showing them in disguise, and a police witness, it's an open-and-shut case.

That's way more cases closed per cop-hour than investigating complex crimes like burglary, murder or rape. Just what you want, if your police chief is judged on their clean-up/arrest rates.

And if order of fewer people than that are avoiding facial recognition? Then you've got a surveillance state.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_railway_statio...

Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by Aunche on Friday April 13, 2018 @12:22PM (#16831467)
You don't need a disguise. You just need some accessories or make up to throw off the neural network. Humans are still much better at facial recognition than computers, but even they can get thrown off by make up. There's no way to tell if someone is intentionally trying to avoid facial recognition or regularly wear makeup or sunglasses.
Re:Chinese police use facial recognition tech to arrest susp... by onetimemanytime on Friday April 13, 2018 @12:46PM (#16831662)
>>they certainly don't have the resources to stop people from wearing makeup, sunglasses or hats.

You need to make one mistake, just one. Plus, these people stick like sore thumbs