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Re:OpenAI Charter by nunya213 on Monday April 09, 2018 @04:26PM (#16796670)
Seems clear that you could instruct the AGI to do anything it could to interfere with other organizations efforts to build an AGI. Obviously Nation States would have strong reasons for pursuing such a course of action and unscrupulous corporations would likewise have strong capitalistic motivations to do so.
Re:OpenAI Charter by p1esk on Monday April 09, 2018 @05:07PM (#16797006)
Seems very unclear if you could "instruct" true AGI to do something.
Re:OpenAI Charter by nunya213 on Monday April 09, 2018 @05:21PM (#16797125)
Maybe you assume that an AGI would be totally uncontrollable but in this highly speculative exercise I don't think you should assume your position is the only valid one.
Re:OpenAI Charter by dsacco on Monday April 09, 2018 @06:59PM (#16797723)
First you said it's clear, now you're saying it's highly speculative. Choose one.
Re:OpenAI Charter by nunya213 on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @01:19PM (#16803115)
I see no conflict.
Re:OpenAI Charter by p1esk on Monday April 09, 2018 @05:48PM (#16797294)
I don't think you should assume your position is the only valid one.

I don't, that's why I said "very unclear" (to me). If something is "clear" to you about AGI, then it seems like it's you who makes that assumption.

Re:OpenAI Charter by nunya213 on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @01:22PM (#16803140)
Seems very unclear if you could "instruct" true AGI to do something.

So you are claiming that by making this statement you are not assuming that it is impossible to control an AGI?

Re:OpenAI Charter by p1esk on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @01:41PM (#16803309)
I'm claiming that it's not clear to me whether we can control it or not.

This is similar to having a very advanced bioengineering technology, where you could instantly change anything about your body. Would you make yourself smarter? Sure. Would you change who you are (e.g. turned off your instincts/desires)? Not so sure.