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Re:Why Jewish History Is So Hard to Write by oblio on Thursday April 05, 2018 @09:20AM (#16764604)
Don't take this the wrong way, but from the outside, this seems condescending.

And secondly it's important to remember your roots, but in my opinion the focus was wrong (or maybe the conversation included this aspect, you just didn't present it): we were around back when Berlin was a swamp and we're still around now, prosperous and developed.

In my eyes that's the real achievement! (look at Iraq, Iran, Egypt, even Greece or India to some degree)

Re:Why Jewish History Is So Hard to Write by MichaelMoser123 on Thursday April 05, 2018 @09:26AM (#16764665)
I don't see any condescension (it doesn't diminish the present greatness of the great capitals at all), it is a factual observation (also you might need a sense of humour to see the irony on the part of what used to be a persecuted minority, after all - and I used to be in east Berlin before the frigging wall came down)
Re:Why Jewish History Is So Hard to Write by oblio on Thursday April 05, 2018 @09:54AM (#16764895)
Could be. What I do know is that I have Greek friends who express the same feeling and they weren't a persecuted minority. There's a certain hubris about nationalities with a rich past.

It's not necessarily bad, but it's still hubris :)

Re:Why Jewish History Is So Hard to Write by jjgreen on Thursday April 05, 2018 @12:26PM (#16766322)
"The people of Crete unfortunately make more history than they can consume locally"

Saki, The Jesting of Arlingthon Stringham

Re:Why Jewish History Is So Hard to Write by lardo on Thursday April 05, 2018 @12:11PM (#16766192)
Re:Why Jewish History Is So Hard to Write by oblio on Thursday April 05, 2018 @12:20PM (#16766269)
Dude, I’m Romanian, I know about the Ottomans.

Greeks were still the majority in Greece and they were a well regarded minority in the empire. They were persecuted after WW1 (see the population exchanges and the Smyrna massacre).

But Greeks don’t view themselves as a persecuted minority, historically. It’s all about the mindset and self-perception.