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Re:We work for Google. Our employer shouldn't be in the busi... by jedimastert on Thursday April 05, 2018 @08:14AM (#16764051)
I wonder if "Don't be evil" is still in their code of conduct...
Re:We work for Google. Our employer shouldn't be in the busi... by PurpleRamen on Thursday April 05, 2018 @08:49AM (#16764357)
Re:We work for Google. Our employer shouldn't be in the busi... by em3rgent0rdr on Friday April 06, 2018 @12:43AM (#16770929)
Wow, they've sure watered-down "Don't be evil":

"Yes, it’s about providing our users unbiased access to information, focusing on their needs and giving them the best products and services that we can."

But what if your users belong to an organization known for doing bad?

"But [Don't Be Evil] is also about doing the right thing more generally – following the law, acting honorably"

But what if the law itself is evil? And what if you are acting honorably to further something evil?

Re:We work for Google. Our employer shouldn't be in the busi... by alslsls on Thursday April 05, 2018 @08:34AM (#16764218)
Pacifism is evil.
Re:We work for Google. Our employer shouldn't be in the busi... by coldtea on Thursday April 05, 2018 @08:34AM (#16764231)
Yeah, the untold victims of pacifism... oh, wait...
Re:We work for Google. Our employer shouldn't be in the busi... by Turing_Machine on Thursday April 05, 2018 @09:29AM (#16764695)
You could start with the victims of Nazi Germany.

If Neville Chamberlain and his cronies had strangled the infant Nazi regime at its birth, rather than appeasing Hitler, many of those people would have lived.

Instead, the appeasement just meant that the war, when it inevitably came, was vastly more horrible and cost vastly more lives than it otherwise would have.

Re:We work for Google. Our employer shouldn't be in the busi... by vixen99 on Thursday April 05, 2018 @09:47AM (#16764837)
And let's not forget people like William Randolph Hearst, Joseph Kennedy (JFK's father), Charles Lindbergh, John Rockefeller, Andrew Mellon (head of Alcoa, banker, and Secretary of Treasury), DuPont, General Motors, Standard Oil (now Exxon), Ford, ITT, Allen Dulles (later head of the CIA), Prescott Bush, National City Bank, and General Electric.

http://www.rationalrevolution.net/war/american_supporters_of...

And then there's IBM whose Hollerith card system so effectively allowed the Nazis to document Jews. https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/first/b/bl...

Re:We work for Google. Our employer shouldn't be in the busi... by coldtea on Thursday April 05, 2018 @12:34PM (#16766406)
All of those are not examples of "pacifism". All those are just people who were in favor of the Nazi Germany as a model of governance and/or profiteering from it.
Re:We work for Google. Our employer shouldn't be in the busi... by coldtea on Thursday April 05, 2018 @12:33PM (#16766390)
>If Neville Chamberlain and his cronies had strangled the infant Nazi regime at its birth, rather than appeasing Hitler, many of those people would have lived.

That wasn't pacifism. That was a mix of avoiding the cost, a miscalculated idea about the long-term plans of Germany, and being OK with having Germany thwart the reds.

Not to mention that it could have been even worse for the victims if they had gone to war immediately, as they were unprepared ("Some recent historians have taken a more favourable perspective of Chamberlain and his policies, citing government papers released under the Thirty Year Rule and arguing that going to war with Germany in 1938 would have been disastrous as the UK was not ready.").