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Re:Fifty or Sixty Years of Processor Development for This? by tim333 on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @01:33PM (#16756971)
Nvidia is cracking along. "Nvidia’s GPUs today are 25 times faster than five years ago. If they were advancing according to Moore’s law, he said, they only would have increased their speed by a factor of 10." https://spectrum.ieee.org/view-from-the-valley/computing/har...

I find it interesting that they are crossing the levels proposed for human equivalence around now depending on how you figure it - Moravec figured about 100 terraflops and you can now get "118.5 teraflops tensor-based deep learning performance" from "The Quadro GV100 is available now on nvidia.com for $8,900" https://www.hpcwire.com/2018/03/27/nvidia-brings-the-power-o... https://www.jetpress.org/volume1/moravec.htm

Just need a bit of software.

Re:Fifty or Sixty Years of Processor Development for This? by Dylan16807 on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @02:05PM (#16757299)
Any improvement like that is from the GPU being given different kinds of circuits entirely. The raw performance difference is not very impressive. In late 2012 you'd get about 8 gigaflops per dollar. Late 2017 gets you almost double that. They're being used somewhat more effectively, but a normal non-neural-net benchmark shows a total performance improvement of... 3x.

They're doing better than CPUs but they're still falling behind Moore's law.

Re:Fifty or Sixty Years of Processor Development for This? by marcofatica on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @11:07PM (#16761466)
> a normal non-neural-net benchmark shows a total performance improvement of... 3x

because they aren't intended to run non-neural-net workloads. you don't judge a dishwasher by it's ability to wash your clothes, do you?

Re:Fifty or Sixty Years of Processor Development for This? by Dylan16807 on Thursday April 05, 2018 @01:46AM (#16762140)
When you're judging whether Moore's law is dead, you need to separate out the improvements from changing the FPU layout and the improvements from lithography. And since the consumer chips don't dedicate a lot of space to neural net units, they're the best baseline.

It's cool that they made some neural net things go hugely faster. But they could make the same fundamental chip on 6-year-old foundries, only slower by a factor of 2 or 3. That really impressive number has nothing to do with Moore's law.