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Re:Google Workers Urge C.E.O. To Pull Out of Pentagon A.I. P... by adventured on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @12:24PM (#16756242)
Before Stalin died, he believed that a conflict with the US was imminent. There was blatantly a hot war brewing between the US and the USSR along the borders of the West/East divide in Europe.

The comment's grandparent could have just as well been defending Western Europe from Stalin's USSR territorial lust. They didn't stop moving west just to be polite.

That vast military stand-off, which became the cold war, was a military conflict. The US deployed over three million soldiers to Europe in the 1950s almost entirely to stop the USSR from advancing any further.

Re:Google Workers Urge C.E.O. To Pull Out of Pentagon A.I. P... by scarmig on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @03:28PM (#16758064)
The USSR's "territorial lust" was aided and abetted by FDR and Churchill and guaranteed by their militaries. They divvied up Europe into spheres of influence at Yalta, and the US and UK were perfectly happy to gift Stalin Eastern Europe to further their own geopolitical objectives.

I'm by no means equating the three, but it's ahistorical to present the American military as an idealistic organization that exists to battle evil. Hell, Mao killed more Soviet soldiers than the USA ever did.

Re:Google Workers Urge C.E.O. To Pull Out of Pentagon A.I. P... by ninkendo on Thursday April 05, 2018 @01:46AM (#16762138)
Honestly, would you have done things differently, if you were Churchill or FDR?

In the 20th century we had already gone through a war so terrible it was called the war to end all wars, until 20 years later when we made it look small by comparison. The deaths in WW2 accounted for 3% of the entire population of the world. And we hadn't even invented the atomic bomb until the very end.

After WW2 we were on the precipice of the next war potentially eliminating the human race. I can see why we were reluctant to jump into it all over again by "battling evil" and forcing Russia to give back the territory they took from Germany.

Re:Google Workers Urge C.E.O. To Pull Out of Pentagon A.I. P... by scarmig on Thursday April 05, 2018 @11:55AM (#16766049)
Their choice was entirely reasonable. War is rarely the right answer.

It's just kind of silly to portray the American military as "standing up to Stalin" because Americans are taught Stalin equals evil and America equals good and ipso facto America must have stood up to Stalin.

Re:Google Workers Urge C.E.O. To Pull Out of Pentagon A.I. P... by ninkendo on Thursday April 05, 2018 @12:35PM (#16766417)
I think the west did a pretty good job of standing up to Stalin as much as they could without actually igniting WW3. The cold war ended without any direct conflict between belligerents after all, and the soviet union fell.

That is, if you take as a constraint that you don't actually want to start an all-out war, the post-WW2 west stood up to Stalin in probably the best way it possibly could have.

Re:Google Workers Urge C.E.O. To Pull Out of Pentagon A.I. P... by panzagl on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @02:26PM (#16757491)
Our industry was literally born from the Cold War, yet now everyone wants to pretend it didn't exist. The Cold War was not just rhetoric and flag-waving. Even outside of Korea/Vietnam/Afghanistan there was continual military activity and those engaged in it took it as seriously as if the world could end.