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Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by 131012 on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @10:57AM (#16745215)
It's incredible to me that so many Americans consider free market as an ideal. They substitute compassion and cooperation with a superficial version of competition and cruelty.
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Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by nerdymanchild on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @11:11AM (#16745383)
The idea that the free market is cruel is skewed. It's clear you don't value liberty or personal responsibility with that sort of perspective. Nothing in this world is owed or guaranteed to you, and forcing people to cooperate with you is immoral but you would disagree.
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Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by 131012 on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @12:41PM (#16746444)
I will not escalate this discussion as I feel it diverges from HN ethics of deliberation. I hope you have a great day!
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Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by defertoreptar on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @11:17AM (#16745444)
I think about this whenever I hear, "teachers don't get paid enough." It's a noble profession, and there's no doubt about the importance of educating our nation's children... but have you ever heard of a thing called "supply and demand"?
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Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by dominotw on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @11:55AM (#16745906)
Its not simple supply and demand though. Parents want everyone else to pay more taxes and pay teachers higher so smarter people choose to become teachers. People without school going kids want to pay as little as possible.
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Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by cdblades on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @09:40AM (#16744481)
Writing off people you disagree with as ignorant doesn't really help anything.

And even if you're right, I'm not interested in a society devoid of compassion.

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Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by crusso on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @10:01AM (#16744643)
I'm not interested in a society devoid of compassion

That's a straw man, right? That's not what the poster to whom you were responding said.

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Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by nerdymanchild on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @11:13AM (#16745398)
I don't want to help anything. People that don't understand how their system works will learn the hard way regardless of what I say or what you claim to be interested in.
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Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by cup-of-tea on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @09:46AM (#16744515)
It's incredible to me that so many people think that free markets actually exist.
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Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by nerdymanchild on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @11:07AM (#16745322)
It does... Look at the website you're on. Ycombinator is an entrepreneurer's forum
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Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by Mononokay on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @11:21AM (#16745498)
America doesn't have a free market - there are too many regulations and laws around it for it to be so.

Look at Bell for an example of how it absolutely isn't a free market.

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Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by cup-of-tea on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @12:00PM (#16745970)
Some regulations make the market less free, some make it more free. Many free markets degrade into oligopolies and eventually monopolies unless they are regulated.

Free market economics is something you learn on the first day of economic theory. But then you very quickly learn that they don't actually exist or if they did exist would be very bad for us (due to high external costs etc.) In what market do consumers really have perfect knowledge? Which markets really have no barriers to entry? Some economists argue that the existence of marketing and advertising immediately defeats any hope of a free market.

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Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by nerdymanchild on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @12:36PM (#16746396)
Why is a working free market predicated on consumers having perfect knowledge? Free != Efficient
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Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by cup-of-tea on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @01:35PM (#16747059)
That's just the definition of free market. How can it be be free if the consumers don't have perfect knowledge?
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Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by nerdymanchild on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @07:49PM (#16750559)
Because most people allowed to own property, run a business, and offer products and services?
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Re:Study shows salaries of young women 8% higher than men in... by nerdymanchild on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @12:04PM (#16746030)
The claim that we live in a free market system is not the same as the claim we live in absolutely free market system.
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