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Re:Tesla’s Musk Takes Charge of Model 3 Production as Proble... by stannol on Monday April 02, 2018 @07:25PM (#16740399)
From personal experience I can say that I am certain that both Dieter Zetsche and Harald Krüger know more about basically every aspect of producing cars than Elon Musk ever will. Both are very much hands-on people and have 3-4 decades of experience.
Re:Tesla’s Musk Takes Charge of Model 3 Production as Proble... by Jesus_Jones on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @03:03PM (#16747991)
Even if they have lots of experience, they failed to see how that the market was going to have to seriously build evs. It took an 'idiot outsider' like Musk to push it as far as it can go. and now we know that separately from the business success of tesla that it's possible to make successful and interesting electric cars like teslas, but also other companies have interesting cars.
Re:Tesla’s Musk Takes Charge of Model 3 Production as Proble... by taheca on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @05:11PM (#16749290)
Yet they never thought to move away from making cars with internal combustion engines and 2k parts vs 200.

Say what you want about how long it is taking them to get going, Tesla make excellent cars and the longer they make them the better they will be.

Re:Tesla’s Musk Takes Charge of Model 3 Production as Proble... by greglindahl on Monday April 02, 2018 @07:32PM (#16740451)
You know all 3 of these people well? Wow.
Re:Tesla’s Musk Takes Charge of Model 3 Production as Proble... by ucaetano on Monday April 02, 2018 @08:14PM (#16740702)
"Zetsche joined Daimler-Benz in 1976, working in the research department. In 1981, he became Assistant Development Manager at the Vehicles business unit. He became a member of DaimlerChrysler's Board of Management in 1998 and served as the President/CEO of Chrysler Group from mid-2000 to 31 December 2005, where he was credited with a turnaround of DCX's American operations. Since 1 January 2006 he succeeded Jürgen Schrempp as Chairman of DaimlerChrysler (now Daimler AG), being succeeded in the position of Chrysler Group CEO by Thomas W. LaSorda."

and

"Mr. Krüger joined BMW in April 1992 and served as Director of its Production Strategy, Control and Planning Division. He managed BMW Group's engine plant at Hams Hall in the UK and served a number of positions within the Human Resources division. He served as the Chairman and Director of Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Ltd. from May 1, 2012 to March 31, 2013. Mr. Krüger serves as a Director of BMW Manufacturing Co. LLC."

Yep, quite a fair bet that any of those two know far more about auto-making than Musk ever will.

Re:Tesla’s Musk Takes Charge of Model 3 Production as Proble... by annerajb on Monday April 02, 2018 @09:40PM (#16741204)
Ever is a long timeframe especially if Tesla continues selling double yoy.
Re:Tesla’s Musk Takes Charge of Model 3 Production as Proble... by FireBeyond on Monday April 02, 2018 @10:45PM (#16741489)
I'm not sure how Musk's experience grows with sales on a linear basis.

Or how sustainable "double yoy" sales are.

Re:Tesla’s Musk Takes Charge of Model 3 Production as Proble... by ucaetano on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @01:45AM (#16742204)
Re:Tesla’s Musk Takes Charge of Model 3 Production as Proble... by greglindahl on Monday April 02, 2018 @09:52PM (#16741263)
I totally believe that reading resumes can support the conclusion, but stannol claimed they knew this info from personal experience.
Re:Tesla’s Musk Takes Charge of Model 3 Production as Proble... by btian on Monday April 02, 2018 @10:08PM (#16741331)
How is that your personal experience?
Re:Tesla’s Musk Takes Charge of Model 3 Production as Proble... by FireBeyond on Monday April 02, 2018 @10:46PM (#16741494)
The person who posted that wasn't the same person.