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Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by ionforce on Monday April 02, 2018 @05:43PM (#16739671)
What parts of your workflow do you think are uniquely enhanced by not being on Mac?
Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by bb88 on Monday April 02, 2018 @06:48PM (#16740173)
For me,

1. Getting packages with apt on ubuntu without installing homebrew. It's vastly simpler and natively supported by ubuntu. I can also update my entire system with sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade.

2. Native docker support.

3. On mac, I always ask the question whether something is ctrl-c or cmd-c, say. On linux it's always ctrl.

4. I don't have to login to the apple store to get the software I need.

5. Linux has always been command-line first. On mac it's always been GUI first.

6. Macbooks are terribly built, and fail for a number of reasons. [1]

7. The Apple brand, while it used to be one of homebrew is now akin to one of fashion. It's kind of like seeing all the kids walk around with their "Hollister" t-shirts on.

I could go on I suppose but those are the meat of the issues.

1: Louis Rossmann's macbook repair channel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfrYOWlKJ_g

Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by tjr225 on Monday April 02, 2018 @07:15PM (#16740330)
2 - docker works flawlessly on macos

4 - i cant think of a single application, outside of maybe xcode, a developer might need to sign into the app store for

6 - whatever reasons that youtuber might have for not using macbooks, i will never buy a non-mac notebook ever again. this 2013 13" mbp has been the best and most reliable computer I have ever had in 30 years and I bought it used!

7 - sure the apple brand is cool but i don't get your point? doesn't it mean that you care about the branding so much so that you won't use it? do you see where I'm going?

Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by meddlepal on Monday April 02, 2018 @07:24PM (#16740395)
> docker works flawlessly on macos

He said nothing about "fine". Docker on Mac is through a VM and thus not native. Containerization in MacOS is impossible without a VM.

Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by nyrikki on Monday April 02, 2018 @07:58PM (#16740603)
Exactly, on linux you have the entire CPU and memory space to use, as it is just a mapped name space.

I will add that the usefulness of seeing the containers PIDS in ps and other tools is more useful than most mac/windows users realize.

xhyve died on the vine it appears, but did make things a bit better.

Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by akvadrako on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @05:14AM (#16743023)
Containers, sandboxes and zones are all different names for the same thing. macOS and iOS actually have quite good sandboxing support.
Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by Accacin on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @06:15AM (#16743300)
Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by bb88 on Monday April 02, 2018 @07:49PM (#16740547)
6: Go watch a few videos. He repairs macbooks -- for a living. Apple just keeps sending business his way.

Pro-tip: If you spill water on the keyboard, shut the MBP off immediately and send it in to the apple repair shop to get cleaned. If the MBP is on while there's water on the logic board, rust will form, either short circuiting chips, or rusting out the copper traces.

7: Apple used to be an amazing technology company giving the world wonderful computing devices. Today, it's a fashion accessory company. Mac OS doesn't run in the cloud. It is not the core OS that runs our infrastructure or space programs. And lastly it doesn't capture our imagination anymore. That throne has been passed to Elon Musk with Tesla, SpaceX and Hyperloop.

Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by jdbernard on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @09:13AM (#16744281)
> 2 - docker works flawless on macos

Lol, nope. At the job I just left almost all of our team had MacBook Pros. We ran our entire dev stack with docker-compose and wasted so much time dealing with broken docker crap that ultimately stemmed from the fact that you're not running docker natively, but rather in a VM.

I wish I could still query the Jira database. I could throw out tons of specific issues.

Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by herbst on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @08:47AM (#16744095)
I bought a 3000 dollar, 2015 MBP with serious heating issues. Which I was told is 'normal'. This pretty much killed any idea that I had that i deal with quality devices there.

I knew they are fragile, I didn't know that using the actual cpu performance for more than a few minutes is a problem.

Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by fooker on Monday April 02, 2018 @07:26PM (#16740411)
>On linux it's always ctrl.

Unless you want to copy from the terminal, where it is ctrl + shift + C.

Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by bb88 on Monday April 02, 2018 @07:52PM (#16740570)
I highlight the text and middle mouse button for paste.
Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by PascLeRasc on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @12:37AM (#16741951)
Didn't you say you liked command-line interfaces, not GUIs?
Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by jrockway on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @08:01AM (#16743810)
I'm not sure how using a mouse to select text means that you're using a GUI. I spend most of my working day in an Emacs window, which is ostensibly text, but it doesn't mean that there aren't cases where selecting some text with the mouse is faster than moving the cursor to the text by retyping it. People have been using mice with computers before windowing systems were even invented.
Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by fooker on Monday April 02, 2018 @08:05PM (#16740652)
And on a Mac, you do Cmd+C. Neither maintains uniformity.
Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by FabHK on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @06:00AM (#16743236)
On macOS, it's very simple, consistent, and intuitive:

GUI menu shortcuts are invoked with Cmd, and that includes copy/paste.

CLI shortcuts work as always (and there's no overlap, because of the extra Cmd key).

Re:Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Repla... by bb88 on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @06:47PM (#16750134)
ctrl-C not command-c to exit a process.