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Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by rmrfrmrf on Monday April 02, 2018 @08:08AM (#16733853)
NXDOMAIN hijacking is enough for me to switch, and most ISPs are doing it nowadays.
Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by aarmenaa on Monday April 02, 2018 @11:16AM (#16735198)
Brighthouse did it before they became Spectrum. They did allow me to turn it off though. I've heard that this is still the case with Spectrum, but I haven't tested.
Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by howard941 on Monday April 02, 2018 @12:12PM (#16735856)
Spectrum is still doing it (N Pinellas Co FL). Not sure if it can be turned off.
Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by josteink on Monday April 02, 2018 @09:56AM (#16734481)
That’s quite a bold claim. Got any data to back it up?

Source: I've yet to see this on any ISP I've used anywhere, sans free airport wifis. Travelled pretty much every continent on earth.

Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by reaperducer on Monday April 02, 2018 @11:24AM (#16735306)
Cox does. And I think Kabletown does, too.

> I've yet to see this on any ISP I've used anywhere, sans free airport wifis. Travelled pretty much every continent on earth.

I guess you've never been to Turkey.

Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by dansanderson on Monday April 02, 2018 @01:55PM (#16737131)
CenturyLink, major telecom in 37 US states. DNS requests for all nonexistent domains go to a server that delivers a dumb "search" page to web requests. They're currently the sole fiber-to-the-home provider in my neighborhood, and Comcast is the only broadband alternative.
Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by josteink on Monday April 02, 2018 @02:34PM (#16737681)
So one or two ISPs in one country out of 300+ worldwide.

Hardly “most” ISPs as claimed in the post I replied to. Not even a fraction.

Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by Godel_unicode on Monday April 02, 2018 @11:54PM (#16741785)
Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by ebikelaw on Monday April 02, 2018 @10:21AM (#16734675)
T-Mobile does it and that is an enormous ISP.
Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by yellowapple on Monday April 02, 2018 @07:38PM (#16740476)
AT&T does it on their home Internet service. Annoys me to no end.

EDIT: lots of ISPs do it, in fact: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS_hijacking#Manipulation_by_...

Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by badwolf on Monday April 02, 2018 @11:23AM (#16735294)
Time Warner (Now Spectrum) in Texas does this on residential as well as "business class"
Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by josteink on Monday April 02, 2018 @02:35PM (#16737695)
So this is a US problem and therefore “most” ISPs worldwide does this?

That’s hardly evidence if any.

Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by yellowapple on Monday April 02, 2018 @07:39PM (#16740484)
> numerous examples of huge ISPs with more users than some European countries have residents

> "That's hardly evidence if any"

I'm sorry what?

Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by chungy on Monday April 02, 2018 @05:10PM (#16739344)
Comcast has been on-and-off about doing it. They've switched between proper NXDOMAIN and hijacking it a few times.

I don't have Comcast anymore (not even available in my area), I can't tell you if it's current practice.

Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by JohnTHaller on Monday April 02, 2018 @12:01PM (#16735738)
Time Warner/Spectrum, the largest provider in NYC (and the only one that services my apt building) does this. They let you turn it off in your account settings, but it doesn't actually turn it off.
Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by sml156 on Monday April 02, 2018 @03:07PM (#16738071)
I live near Toronto Canada and Rogers my ISP hijack's DNS requests for non existent domains. The data to back up my bold statement is a simple Google search which reveals that they have been doing this at the very least from my Google search was from 2008.

It is possible to turn off this feature, But it is set by a cookie and once that cookie is deleted you have to do it all over again.

Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by astral303 on Monday April 02, 2018 @10:45AM (#16734868)
Verizon Fios
Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by ben0x539 on Monday April 02, 2018 @10:17AM (#16734637)
That's quite the aggressive reaction. ;)
Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by nfriedly on Monday April 02, 2018 @10:19AM (#16734651)
Windstream in Ohio does it.

I'm pretty sure I had a previous ISP that did it too, but I can't remember which one now.

Re:DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8... by crtasm on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @11:29AM (#16745586)
TalkTalk in the UK. last chance I got to test it was about a year ago.