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Re:Why “blockchain” is BS in 4 slides by JumpCrisscross on Sunday April 01, 2018 @04:36PM (#16730300)
> smart contracts and distributed algorithms enable control mechanism and hard guarantees that have no old world equivalent, they can eliminate counterparty risks, guarantee solvency and fair arbitration etc.

The required nexus between the blockchain and the tangible and legal worlds means every limitation that exists today will exist for a "smart contract". It's the same plumbing with a paint job.

Re:Why “blockchain” is BS in 4 slides by as300 on Sunday April 01, 2018 @06:42PM (#16730943)
I'm sort of thinking out loud here, but the nexus will have to consist of third-party auditors who operate based on reputation.

Right now, we have the government operating as both the "miners" and the auditors.

A middle-ground, then, might be one in which there is a general-purpose public blockchain where the government takes the role of the trusted third-party on-chain, thereby lowering the overall societal costs of things like unfulfilled contracts while still ensuring that my oil-reserves are what I say they are.

From the government's perspective I see this as desirable but falling prey to the principal-agent problem. We'd need virtually no civil-court judges or attorneys to prosecute white-collar crime anymore. It'd lower costs, but in doing so unemploy many of the people in the system.

Re:Why “blockchain” is BS in 4 slides by jayd16 on Sunday April 01, 2018 @08:33PM (#16731396)
This is called the Federal Reserve Bank and it is indeed separate from the tax and fraud portions of the federal government in the US.

But the rest of your post is pretty silly. How does a secure digital exchange protect against fraud? It doesn't.

Re:Why “blockchain” is BS in 4 slides by as300 on Monday April 02, 2018 @03:12AM (#16732878)
Fraud can occur when a party lies about assets it owns when entering into an agreement, which would be prevented if you had to present proof of ownership for any asset you claim to own? Most ponzi schemes would never happen.
Re:Why “blockchain” is BS in 4 slides by jayd16 on Monday April 02, 2018 @03:31PM (#16738346)
You can own something, accept payment for it, and never actually relinquish ownership. Besides, the blockchain is only proof of ownership of things on the chain. Real world things are not covered at all.
Re:Why “blockchain” is BS in 4 slides by hndamien on Monday April 02, 2018 @09:43PM (#16741222)
Digital rights are real words things though. Other forms of rights that are not currently digital could be made digital too.
Re:Why “blockchain” is BS in 4 slides by joe_the_user on Sunday April 01, 2018 @09:33PM (#16731620)
The required nexus between the blockchain and the tangible and legal worlds means every limitation that exists today will exist for a "smart contract". It's the same plumbing with a paint job.

It's that plus a whole new crop of perverse incentives which arise with any "smart contract". Especially, no smart control can reach out to the "real world" and get data, more less facts. A smart control would essentially be limited to some data-stream in on Internet. And anything like that can be subverted seven ways from Sunday. Do you really want billions riding on THAT?

(and, yes, give us some Rube Goldberg scheme of averaging six different weather stations for your result. I'm sure nothing can go wrong with any of those ideas. Yeah, World finance then gets to be hoisted on the lpad petard).

Re:Why “blockchain” is BS in 4 slides by cornholio on Monday April 02, 2018 @10:05AM (#16734537)
Something equivalent to LIBOR rates could in principle be made to run on distributed markets with a great deal of transparency and little possibility for manipulation. They are a standard feature of many contracts. Whole central banks could be automated. Something like "next year's tomato quality" will obviously need a physical world mediator, but that's hardly surprising.

When the great recession started, it was not caused by an external shock, rather by the viral mistrust that the underwriters of the bad loans were solvent. A financial fragility problem that the blockchain can work to address.

Re:Why “blockchain” is BS in 4 slides by lojack on Sunday April 01, 2018 @06:20PM (#16730857)
This risk can be mitigated by bridging the real world and the blockchain using oracles. This risk mitigation can be somewhat decentralized using a voting or reputation mechanism. This is by no means perfect, and I'm not aware of any trustless mechanisms for this, but its a problem people are currently working on, and I think there will eventually be a good solution.

I also don't think this is a false dichotomy. Most likely we'll end up at a place with some improvement over what we have today (I'd actually argue we're currently at this point now) but not without all of the limitations.