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Re:Google Has a Striking History of Bias Against Black Girls by mirimir on Wednesday March 28, 2018 @06:40PM (#16702689)
Well, I'd like some search service that shows me what's accurately out there. If there's content out there about somebody being a "miserable failure" or Holocaust denial, I want to see it. I mean, what good is a search service that doesn't show what's there?

If I don't want to see whatever results are useless or offensive, I'll do my own filtering.

But then, I grew up on searching the scientific literature using Science Citation Index. And other stuff in LexisNexis. You don't expect stuff to be missing because it isn't cited much, hasn't been replicated, or whatever. You can filter by how well stuff has been cited, of course.

Re:Google Has a Striking History of Bias Against Black Girls by danso on Wednesday March 28, 2018 @07:10PM (#16702918)
> I'd like some search service that shows me what's accurately out there

What does that mean, to accurately depict what's "out there"? That could be as nonsensical and unproductive as completely killing the spam filter in your email. Do you feel that that GMail and other modern-spam-detecting solutions have given you an inaccurate view of the "real" mail you are getting?

By the late 2000s, content farms such as Demand Media were churning out clickbait that followed the best practices with SEO. Demand Media [0] consistently beat out the NYT on SERP, thanks in part to a store of 1 million domain names used to serve up ads and links for topics ("howtomakeasandwich.com" would like to junk articles about sandwiches). By 2010, DM had 105 million unique visitors a month [0] and reached a market cap of $2B. The NYT, by comparison, had about 32M unique monthly visitors [1] -- across all of its properties (BostonGlobe.com, etc), and its market cap in 2011 was about $1.5B [1].

Demand Media beat the living shit out of NYT and every other quality media site by playing to the the known heuristics of Google's SERP. Every other media company had the opportunity and resources to play spamlord. Apparently they didn't, and by 2011 no other media company was positioned to create content (of any quality) with the scalable efficiency of Demand Media.

Google could have just accepted that "might makes right", but that is not an objective/neutral decision, nevermind a rational one.

[0] http://variety.com/2013/biz/news/epic-fail-the-rise-and-fall...

[1] https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/12/it-cost...

Re:Google Has a Striking History of Bias Against Black Girls by mirimir on Wednesday March 28, 2018 @07:33PM (#16703094)
I don't like spam filters. Because I've been burned too many times, missing important messages that got flagged as spam. So I end up having to look through all the spam anyway.

I did hate the Demand Media bullshit, however. But as I've said, I'd rather that Google flagged that stuff, and let me filter it out. I mean, maybe I'm researching an article about Demand Media. How could I do it if Google is suppressing it? Could Google perhaps have an "expert" option? Analogous to "family friendly" or whatever it's called.

Re:Google Has a Striking History of Bias Against Black Girls by notahacker on Wednesday March 28, 2018 @07:20PM (#16702999)
The Science Citation Index and LexisNexis already do most of the filtering for you by not including absolute unmitigated garbage that happens to be perfectly optimised for your search keywords. You might find the odd David Irving article in there, but you haven't got Stormfront trying to citation-bomb all holocaust related terms for the lolz, never mind commercial blogspam. And Google also works on the assumption most users won't do their own filtering.
Re:Google Has a Striking History of Bias Against Black Girls by mirimir on Wednesday March 28, 2018 @08:25PM (#16703449)
I can't imagine that Science Citation Index excludes stuff from the literature. But it's been a while since I used it. Perhaps they drop "absolute unmitigated garbage". Or that they neglect to index obscure journals.
Re:Google Has a Striking History of Bias Against Black Girls by pishpash on Wednesday March 28, 2018 @07:06PM (#16702884)
Where are the filters that show which search demographics contributed to a result being relevant? I could use that to filter out SEO's, googlebombs, racist results, etc., if I wanted.