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Re:Waymo teams up with Jaguar to intro a new, premium self-d... by bluGill on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @01:09PM (#16690591)
There are a lot of unknown.

First of all, what is a lot? 1% of the US would be around 3 million people, which is a lot of people and yet 1% is not very significant. Of course we know some people don't own a car, you can make your numbers look bigger or smaller depending on if you count them. (there are books on how to lie with statistics if you want to continue this line)

There are people who are already close to giving up their car who will.

I believe that most people will not give up their own car. Rush hour is a thing for a reason: most cars are driving during those hours, so your costs for a self driving car ride rental needs to account for that. Once your costs are not much different the utility of your own car is a price worth paying. I know that I can go shopping over lunch and leave my new toys in the trunk. I keep a spare diaper in my car just in case my kid needs one. When I go on vacation I often start packing the car a few days before.

If you are frugal rides in a self driving car is probably more expensive than rides in your own car. Your payment has to cover oil changes (I change my own oil - I've concluded that it actually saves me time over driving to a mechanic). Your payment covers inspection/cleaning after every ride - nobody cleans their personal car that often. People who ride in a self driving car will demand newer cars even though a 12 year old car (if well maintained) works perfectly fine for the same task.

Re:Waymo teams up with Jaguar to intro a new, premium self-d... by netsharc on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @02:35PM (#16691457)
If they get around to it, they would probably offer several subscription levels. Pay more, and you're guaranteed a swankier car, be frugal and it's a crapshoot, maybe you get a boring Tata, or you get a Jaguar.

Also, if the taxi fleet knows where everyone is going, they can easily organize a car-pool. If you're frugal then you'll be okay with pooling, pay more if you want the exclusivity (or, if you have the frugal plan, you can pay 10 bucks more this morning if you want to be left alone...).

The Jaguar vs Tata would make a fun algorithm. Say you're the frugal one, you order a car, and a Jaguar is heading your way. Suddenly your neighbor (on the premium plan) orders a car, and someone else a few minutes away cancelled their Tata. Oops, sorry, he gets the Jaguar.

Edit: Changed "Mercedes" to "Jaguar"

Re:Waymo teams up with Jaguar to intro a new, premium self-d... by treis on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @01:48PM (#16690995)
No one is going to clean/inspect cars after every ride. At best it will be once a day. More likely something like once a week or until someone complains.

Same thing with the car age. They aren't going to cycle new cars in every few years. At best, they are going to replace the interiors in that time frame.

It also doesn't account for the size of the car. People buy 4 seaters for the 10% (or whartever) of the time that they have passengers. Commuters will be perfectly fine with a 1 seater if they can order a bigger car when needed.

Re:Waymo teams up with Jaguar to intro a new, premium self-d... by Animats on Wednesday March 28, 2018 @03:12AM (#16696023)
They aren't going to cycle new cars in every few years.

The auto rental industry does. The average holding time in the rental car industry is 13 months. Enterprise Holdings (Enterprise, Alamo, and National) owns over a million cars. Lots of companies talk about "transportation as a service". Those companies do it.

Among other things, they own enough parking spaces to park all those cars.

Re:Waymo teams up with Jaguar to intro a new, premium self-d... by TheSoftwareGuy on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @03:01PM (#16691697)
I'm sure they could com up with removable upholstery (or upholstery covers) that they can clean separately and replace as often as needed. Its not a huge leap from floor mats and seat covers
Re:Waymo teams up with Jaguar to intro a new, premium self-d... by pkaye on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @03:16PM (#16691842)
I was test driving a car this weekend and noticed the seat covers had some hidden zippers that would make it trivial to replace.
Re:Waymo teams up with Jaguar to intro a new, premium self-d... by kgc on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @05:21PM (#16692836)
What car was it?
Re:Waymo teams up with Jaguar to intro a new, premium self-d... by pkaye on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @11:07PM (#16694922)
I looked at a couple cars so don't remember exactly which. I think is was a Subaru Forester. I was sitting in the back seat checking things out and noticed a tiny line along the back of the driver seat. Turns out it was an internal zipper with the ends tucked near the bottom. It think if you pulled those up, the whole back flap of the seat cover opens up.
Re:Waymo teams up with Jaguar to intro a new, premium self-d... by mavhc on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @02:21PM (#16691305)
Or share a car for 50% off the cost.

They're going to recycle the cars faster than today, because they'll be used for closer to 100% of the time, rather than 10% today.

Re:Waymo teams up with Jaguar to intro a new, premium self-d... by sokoloff on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @02:39PM (#16691491)
People fly in 15+ year old airliners all the time and it doesn't seem to stop them.
Re:Waymo teams up with Jaguar to intro a new, premium self-d... by freehunter on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @09:27PM (#16694399)
I'm sure if you asked people, many would prefer a newer airplane. I've flown on 30 year old planes in the past and while there was nothing wrong with the plane, it's still something that makes you think. But most people don't have the option to turn down a flight because of the age of the aircraft.
Re:Waymo teams up with Jaguar to intro a new, premium self-d... by sokoloff on Wednesday March 28, 2018 @01:49PM (#16700002)
I'm also fairly sure if you asked them whether they'd rather pay $189 to fly across the country in a jet that might be as much as 25 years old or $589 to fly in a jet that they could be assured was no more than 8 years old, the $189 ticket wins by a landslide.

I don't see any reason to think a similar price-sensitivity wouldn't apply to other forms of seat-rented transportation.