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Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by comportboy on Monday March 26, 2018 @10:43PM (#16684741)
Google can ID your web browser uniquely. If you've ever logged in to Google just once in your lifetime, they know it's you forever.

They cross it with your location, your movements, your emails, expenses, everything.

There is no single more spooky company than Google.

Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by code_duck on Monday March 26, 2018 @10:45PM (#16684753)
As demoed on EFF’s Panopticlick site, anyone can. My browser tests as unique and it’s stock Safari on an iPhone.
Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by dunham on Monday March 26, 2018 @10:55PM (#16684807)
Does it test as unique on subsequent visits?
Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by code_duck on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @12:31AM (#16685262)
With subsequent visits I get “one in 339162.0 browsers have the same fingerprint as yours” and so forth, with the number decreasing each time.

Clearing cookies makes no difference - the hash of WebGL and Canvas fingerprints stay the same.

Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by sdiepend on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @03:54AM (#16686283)
:( Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 1,357,338 tested so far.
Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by Retric on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @09:58AM (#16688387)
1 in 1,357,338 could easily be 10,000+ devices considering how fast these fingerprints change and how many users are out there.

Geographic location is a much larger issue.

Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by cinquemb on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @05:35AM (#16686723)
I know this is probably going to sound like magic to some, but you know, one can control, if they so choose to, what one's browser (if one uses a FOSS browser) sends over the network by modifying the code and recompiling it for oneself…
Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by mercora on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @05:55AM (#16686818)
i bet disabling these features make you stick out even more ;D
Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by cinquemb on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @06:23AM (#16686934)
Who said anything about disabling… some actors spoof information all the time to appear as if they are somewhere/someone else or even a someone (bots) in the first place.

On the topic of disabling, if one disabled javascript by default, one would get the immediate effect of not seeing most of the advertising on the web (outside of submarine articles).

I bet people telling others that they "need" this shit to use the web probably has significant overlap with those who say they "need" Facebook (or any other random app) or else there would be no other way to find events or things to do. Like without facebook groups, one would die! lol

Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by a_imho on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @06:51AM (#16687061)
Indeed, obfuscation and sending noise is one obvious countermeasure and that space needs more exploring. Google banned Adnauseam on Chrome just for tinkering with the idea.
Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by singularity2001 on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @04:38AM (#16686470)
while theoretically possible there are enough people monitoring Google's JavaScript to make sure that they will never use fingerprinting on you. Or do they?
Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by code_duck on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @05:49PM (#16693052)
I assumed that all large sites use code like this to filter out fraudulent and abusive accounts.
Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by singularity2001 on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @04:41AM (#16686489)
Can someone please revive Random Agent Spoofer?
Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by chopin on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @06:00AM (#16686837)
It's better to switch off JavaScript. Try panopticlick with and without it.
Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by mercora on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @06:18AM (#16686912)
i just tried but sadly it did not finish without allowing js on their site and for both of the thirdparty tests. It might would have finished if i would not have enabled this test though.

However, even if it would show better results then my user agent and accept header is apprently pretty unique anyhow. But why bother.. My ip addresses do not change that often.

Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by singularity2001 on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @10:00AM (#16688404)
yes, noscript is a must, however not enough against fingerprinting
Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by mehrdadn on Monday March 26, 2018 @10:55PM (#16684800)
Yes, Google has all this information. No, it hasn't been as careless with it as Facebook. If that counts for nothing in your threat model then your model is useless and you're just spreading FUD.
Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by blackrock on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @02:25AM (#16685803)
Google tracking users down to this level is beyond creepy.

Google being careful with user data, may be true now. But what happens one day when Google goes bankrupt? And they have to sell all their information about their users at firesale prices.

Yahoo went bankrupt, and sold off its data about their users.

Imagine the treasure trove of information that can be gleamed from every single American's online activities. Imagine all the "innocent" people that can be blackmailed, and have their lives destroyed.

Imagine a company like no other in human history, that is amassing information on every single American, on every single person in the world, and on a scale that has never been done before. Imagine.. Google.

Google needs to be regulated. The public needs to know what they are doing. And we need restrictions on what can be done with that data. If they go bankrupt one day, then they cannot sell it. It must be destroyed. It is too dangerous to be sold off to the highest bidder.

Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by doubt_me on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @04:06AM (#16686335)
Ohh this Is why they have no customer support for their products.

We are the product.

Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by aepiepaey on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @07:32AM (#16687281)
The reason for no/lacking customer support is that it requires humans, and humans are expensive.
Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by malvosenior on Monday March 26, 2018 @11:16PM (#16684905)
“Google is less evil than Facebook” is absolutely not something you should assume in your threat model.
Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by r00fus on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @01:19AM (#16685481)
While your statement is true, it's best to talk probabilties.

If you calculate the likelihood that companyX is a) hoarding sensitive data about you AND b) isn't competent at securing said data, I'd rate Google as less of a threat because I estimate (b) is much less likely.

The best way to win is not to play. I block cookies, scripts and also don't use FB or much of Google except search & email.

Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by gt_ on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @02:09AM (#16685726)
Being “competent at securing your data” is useless when they are incentivized to utilize it.

Usually, when an entity motivated against our best interests is considered “competent”, we calculate that they are more of a threat. This makes fine sense to me. Why would one reason differently about Google? It looks illogical to me.

Google is a company. Google is optimized for profit, not data privacy. Quite the contrary, of course. And that isn’t changing any time soon. Right now, they have a lot of surplus, but that can change, which will effect the nature of their optimization’s. For that reason, we should consider the incentives since they are evidently the core motivation of Google’s behavior.

If I’m not mistaken, you are encouraging others to trust an unrelated entity known to be incentivized against their best interests. Sounds like a tough sell to put it lightly.

Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by the_other on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @05:14AM (#16686634)
> ... much of Google except search & email.

This reads like self-satire.

Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by foolrush on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @01:28AM (#16685525)
Google and Apple's data is viewed as trade secret. Facebook, on the other, hand sells access.

Quite a huge difference there.

Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by birksherty on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @04:32AM (#16686443)
What parties that are buying data from Facebook do, Google themself can do the same. Manipulate search, Youtube suggested video, using data for their own benefit. May be they did not do anything. But, that does not mean they can't do that in future.

Saying it's fine for Google have so much power just because they are not working like Facebook, is stupid. History repeats, but we never learn our lesson.

Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by wyck on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @09:59AM (#16688390)
Geo-location is the scary metric, peoples habits / when/ where is a trove of data, it can be analyzed much more deeply.
Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by nukeop on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @03:53AM (#16686281)
There's so many things that can change your fingerprint that their methods are useless, unless you continue to use their products willingly and don't block their scripts. Without your willful participation, they are quite helpless.