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Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by mehrdadn on Monday March 26, 2018 @10:55PM (#16684800)
Yes, Google has all this information. No, it hasn't been as careless with it as Facebook. If that counts for nothing in your threat model then your model is useless and you're just spreading FUD.
Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by blackrock on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @02:25AM (#16685803)
Google tracking users down to this level is beyond creepy.

Google being careful with user data, may be true now. But what happens one day when Google goes bankrupt? And they have to sell all their information about their users at firesale prices.

Yahoo went bankrupt, and sold off its data about their users.

Imagine the treasure trove of information that can be gleamed from every single American's online activities. Imagine all the "innocent" people that can be blackmailed, and have their lives destroyed.

Imagine a company like no other in human history, that is amassing information on every single American, on every single person in the world, and on a scale that has never been done before. Imagine.. Google.

Google needs to be regulated. The public needs to know what they are doing. And we need restrictions on what can be done with that data. If they go bankrupt one day, then they cannot sell it. It must be destroyed. It is too dangerous to be sold off to the highest bidder.

Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by doubt_me on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @04:06AM (#16686335)
Ohh this Is why they have no customer support for their products.

We are the product.

Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by aepiepaey on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @07:32AM (#16687281)
The reason for no/lacking customer support is that it requires humans, and humans are expensive.
Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by malvosenior on Monday March 26, 2018 @11:16PM (#16684905)
“Google is less evil than Facebook” is absolutely not something you should assume in your threat model.
Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by r00fus on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @01:19AM (#16685481)
While your statement is true, it's best to talk probabilties.

If you calculate the likelihood that companyX is a) hoarding sensitive data about you AND b) isn't competent at securing said data, I'd rate Google as less of a threat because I estimate (b) is much less likely.

The best way to win is not to play. I block cookies, scripts and also don't use FB or much of Google except search & email.

Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by gt_ on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @02:09AM (#16685726)
Being “competent at securing your data” is useless when they are incentivized to utilize it.

Usually, when an entity motivated against our best interests is considered “competent”, we calculate that they are more of a threat. This makes fine sense to me. Why would one reason differently about Google? It looks illogical to me.

Google is a company. Google is optimized for profit, not data privacy. Quite the contrary, of course. And that isn’t changing any time soon. Right now, they have a lot of surplus, but that can change, which will effect the nature of their optimization’s. For that reason, we should consider the incentives since they are evidently the core motivation of Google’s behavior.

If I’m not mistaken, you are encouraging others to trust an unrelated entity known to be incentivized against their best interests. Sounds like a tough sell to put it lightly.

Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by the_other on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @05:14AM (#16686634)
> ... much of Google except search & email.

This reads like self-satire.

Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by foolrush on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @01:28AM (#16685525)
Google and Apple's data is viewed as trade secret. Facebook, on the other, hand sells access.

Quite a huge difference there.

Re:It's not just Facebook. Thousands of companies are spying... by birksherty on Tuesday March 27, 2018 @04:32AM (#16686443)
What parties that are buying data from Facebook do, Google themself can do the same. Manipulate search, Youtube suggested video, using data for their own benefit. May be they did not do anything. But, that does not mean they can't do that in future.

Saying it's fine for Google have so much power just because they are not working like Facebook, is stupid. History repeats, but we never learn our lesson.