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Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by naiveai on Sunday March 25, 2018 @12:33AM (#16670778)
Why is this happening? I see the argumnent that these organizations are private companies and can do whatever they see fit, including censorship, I see no reason why these should not be opposed on principle. Global expression of ideas should not be controlled by any one jurisdiction or board of directors.

When will we ever find a solution? Decentralisation is fun to talk about but almost impossible to accomplish in practice. So how do we create a compromise scenario that protects the free spread of ideas? I have no idea. I am so sick of all this.

Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by crowbahr on Sunday March 25, 2018 @01:16AM (#16670884)
It's happening because the USA has declared it illegal for any website to knowingly host any content that might be illegal.

As such they're pulling down anything and everything that might be even possibly illegal.

Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by kazen44 on Sunday March 25, 2018 @05:52AM (#16671494)
what about websites which are not hosted in the US, but for instance, in europe or asia?

This law wouldn't be in effect for them?

Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by wtfstatists on Sunday March 25, 2018 @08:27AM (#16671874)
At least CJEU has ruled that austrian company running uk-hosted website is liable for damages due to copyright infringements occuring in france [1].

http://copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com/2015/02/11/cjeu-mere-ac...

Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by Asooka on Sunday March 25, 2018 @07:38AM (#16671748)
It would if the USA has an extradition agreement in place, which we do with a majority of countries. So while you do not commit a crime domestically, if an American can access illegal content on your site, you can be sued in the USA and extradited.
Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by namlem on Monday March 26, 2018 @01:46AM (#16676886)
You can't be extradited for purely civil matters.
Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by LouisSayers on Sunday March 25, 2018 @08:20AM (#16671856)
@singularity2001 yes, Kim dotcom with MegaUpload
Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by wtfstatists on Sunday March 25, 2018 @08:29AM (#16671885)
No its location of server that did it for Megaupload.

https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2015/12/28/extradition-juris...

In short, much of Megaupload’s servers were located in the U.S. This, for the purpose of jurisdiction, means two things. First, much of the alleged crimes took place physically in the United States. The infringements, the payments, etc. took place, at least in large part, in Virginia even if the people orchestrating it were scattered all over the world.

More importantly though, courts in both the U.S. and now New Zealand have ruled that these servers provide sufficient contact with the U.S. to give it jurisdiction over the criminal case. While jurisdiction alone doesn’t mean a person can be extradited, it’s a crucial step and this also explains why a man who never set foot in the U.S. can be extradited to it for a crime committed online.

However, this isn’t the first time the U.S. has used the server argument it’s been using it for years to combat securities fraud in the country.

Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by guitarbill on Sunday March 25, 2018 @02:43PM (#16673723)
> First, much of the alleged crimes took place physically in the United States. The infringements, the payments, etc. took place, at least in large part, in Virginia even if the people orchestrating it were scattered all over the world.

This logic is twisted and does not follow at all, except if you have a purely old world way of thinking (i.e. pre-internet), or are morally flexible when it suits your narrative.

The lesson is clear though, stay away from American servers.

Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by singularity2001 on Sunday March 25, 2018 @08:18AM (#16671844)
are there cases when this really happened?
Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by mike10010100 on Monday March 26, 2018 @01:06PM (#16680480)
> the USA has declared it illegal for any website to knowingly host any content that might be illegal

Which law is this and when did it go into effect?

Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by Lorkki on Sunday March 25, 2018 @05:20AM (#16671434)
There isn't exactly a global shortage of cloud storage providers, so the solution seems pretty simple. Just never store your files in only one place.
Re:Sex Workers Say Porn on Google Drive Is Suddenly Disappea... by nine_k on Sunday March 25, 2018 @11:34AM (#16672607)
Rather, never store any potentially problematic content in a storage service with a legal entity behind it.

Store encrypted chunks strewn across multiple nodes, so that each node can reliably deny knowledge, or even possession of a full copy, of the content. So they can't be sued.

This, of course, prevents making this content from being accessible to public.