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Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook? by woweeeee on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:03PM (#16649773)

  WhatsApp
You know that's still Facebook, rrriiiight?
Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook? by sp332 on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:15PM (#16649936)
True, but it does have end-to-end encryption so their ability to leak or abuse your data is a lot more limited.
Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook? by black_puppydog on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:17PM (#16649976)
I doubt they'd need the word "coffee" to infer what's happening when said message gets sent. Who sends it and to whom would be just enough thank you very much...
Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook? by soziawa on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:38PM (#16650230)
But they get all your location data. They'll know that you met for coffee.
Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook? by sp332 on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:43PM (#16650276)
Is it necessary to give them location data to use the app?
Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook? by soziawa on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:47PM (#16650316)
They'll know through your IP.
Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook? by vorticalbox on Thursday March 22, 2018 @01:16PM (#16650633)
they will know that this IP sent this much data to that IP but not what was inside it.

Your ISP knows the same when using a web site via HTTPS. They can see you send a request to the website but not what it contained.

You could also use a VPn or TOR if you want to hide your IP.

Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook? by soziawa on Friday March 23, 2018 @03:41AM (#16655876)
And they'll know who you contacted and when. That allows for a lot of things to be guessed. Especially with hundreds of thousands of messages per user available to them.

Yeah, but my ISP has to follow the local laws and I can easily switch ISPs if I dislike my current one. Try that with Facebook.

Yeah, I might use a VPN but I'd also have to force all my contacts to use one as well.

Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook? by drukenemo on Thursday March 22, 2018 @01:16PM (#16650640)
As said by others, there are differences. Also, I set Whatsapp to never receive my location data.

But yeah, the networking effect is real. Whatsapp is what everyone uses, so far it seems like a decent compromise based on end-to-end encryption.

Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook? by iamjaredwalters on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:05PM (#16649797)
The data may ultimately belong to Facebook but Whatsapp is not the same as Facebook.
Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook? by soziawa on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:50PM (#16650349)
But everything is made by Facebook, the only difference is branding. It's like saying that Facebook Messenger only belongs to Facebook but isn't Facebook.