Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook?
by woweeeee on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:03PM
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You know that's still Facebook, rrriiiight?
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Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook?
by sp332 on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:15PM
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True, but it does have end-to-end encryption so their ability to leak or abuse your data is a lot more limited.
Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook?
by black_puppydog on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:17PM
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I doubt they'd need the word "coffee" to infer what's happening when said message gets sent. Who sends it and to whom would be just enough thank you very much...
Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook?
by soziawa on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:38PM
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But they get all your location data. They'll know that you met for coffee.
Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook?
by sp332 on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:43PM
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Is it necessary to give them location data to use the app?
Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook?
by soziawa on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:47PM
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They'll know through your IP.
Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook?
by vorticalbox on Thursday March 22, 2018 @01:16PM
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they will know that this IP sent this much data to that IP but not what was inside it.
Your ISP knows the same when using a web site via HTTPS. They can see you send a request to the website but not what it contained.
You could also use a VPn or TOR if you want to hide your IP.
Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook?
by soziawa on Friday March 23, 2018 @03:41AM
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And they'll know who you contacted and when. That allows for a lot of things to be guessed. Especially with hundreds of thousands of messages per user available to them.
Yeah, but my ISP has to follow the local laws and I can easily switch ISPs if I dislike my current one. Try that with Facebook.
Yeah, I might use a VPN but I'd also have to force all my contacts to use one as well.
Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook?
by drukenemo on Thursday March 22, 2018 @01:16PM
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As said by others, there are differences. Also, I set Whatsapp to never receive my location data.
But yeah, the networking effect is real. Whatsapp is what everyone uses, so far it seems like a decent compromise based on end-to-end encryption.
Re:Ask HN: Where to go after deleting Facebook?
by iamjaredwalters on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:05PM
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The data may ultimately belong to Facebook but Whatsapp is not the same as Facebook.