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Re:California should emulate Tokyo, where housing stayed ahe... by pfedigan on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @07:40PM (#16643550)
What if I don't want to live in an apartment most of my life?
Re:California should emulate Tokyo, where housing stayed ahe... by patio11 on Thursday March 22, 2018 @01:51AM (#16646092)
Pay ~$300k for a house in Tokyo, which will cost you +/- $10k down [+] and ~$1k a month for a mortgage. Japanese underwriting standards would consider this doable at a household income of approximately $2.8k a month or so.

c.f. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGbC5j4pG9w

[+] I realize that number is surprising, and I would have found it surprising up until ~3 weeks ago, but I can assure you that this product is presently commercially available in Tokyo, including to people who do not exactly smash Japanese banks' definition of "desirable client."

Re:California should emulate Tokyo, where housing stayed ahe... by stale2002 on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @09:44PM (#16644755)
You are thinking about this wrong.

For every apartmemt complex that gets built, that is X many LESS people who are competing to buy that suburb house that you love.

The suburbs will still exist. But more appartments in the city means that prices go down for everyone.

Re:California should emulate Tokyo, where housing stayed ahe... by azernik on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @08:49PM (#16644306)
Then you should probably not be living in an area where land is in short supply and high demand.
Re:California should emulate Tokyo, where housing stayed ahe... by pchristensen on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @07:43PM (#16643596)
Earn more or move or commute longer.
Re:California should emulate Tokyo, where housing stayed ahe... by majormajor on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @08:06PM (#16643843)
Or vote and be politically active.

Ignoring that as a rational choice for many people already in expensive areas is just asking for your proposals to fail.

We very frequently talk about the economic value that could be produced by different housing actions, but policy is not purely determined by economic value. I know more people opposed to upzoning because they like their yards and their space than because they're worried about their property values (denser cities in the US are very rarely cheaper).

Re:California should emulate Tokyo, where housing stayed ahe... by xenihn on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @09:03PM (#16644438)
Or work remotely
Re:California should emulate Tokyo, where housing stayed ahe... by Daishiman on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @08:14PM (#16643936)
Pay up the real value of a house in a city.
Re:California should emulate Tokyo, where housing stayed ahe... by ghfbjdhhv on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @10:10PM (#16644972)
I’d be happy to live in a condo, but live in a house instead, because you can’t really build condos here. I’m sure there’s somebody else who would like to live in my house.
Re:California should emulate Tokyo, where housing stayed ahe... by rayiner on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @09:59PM (#16644859)
Then move out to the suburbs? Don’t force the city to stay suburban to accommodate your snowflake preferences.
Re:California should emulate Tokyo, where housing stayed ahe... by dibujante on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @07:45PM (#16643611)
Leave. Or ask millions of people to kindly stop existing.
Re:California should emulate Tokyo, where housing stayed ahe... by joejerryronnie on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @09:05PM (#16644453)
Then you will be ostracized on HN for not being pro-urban.
Re:California should emulate Tokyo, where housing stayed ahe... by pchristensen on Thursday March 22, 2018 @12:29AM (#16645745)
No one is ostracized, just confronted with economic reality of competition for space and the laws that distort it. I love living in a house but it’s a little silly to mandate that a house is the only thing that can legally be built on land that’s valued at over $2M/acre.
Re:California should emulate Tokyo, where housing stayed ahe... by 2chen on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @09:47PM (#16644774)
Aesthetic reasons are the worst reason to be anti-urban.