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Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by gnicholas on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @09:18PM (#16634453)
If we use Twitter to announce that people should #deletefacebook, what social network do we use in the event that it becomes necessary to #deletetwitter?
Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by walrus01 on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @09:19PM (#16634462)
you ssh into your own trusted openbsd system, run bitchx and connect to efnet, just like the good lord intended back in the days when dinosaurs roamed the earth.

i am only partially sarcastic here.

Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by djsumdog on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @10:56PM (#16634954)
I do miss the mad west of the IRC/NNTP days. I also miss multiple search engines. Yahoo/Lycos/Hotbot/Dogpile/AltaVista all give you different results and you could have fun searching around.

The current Internet is a monoculture

Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by lazyjones on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @08:33AM (#16637464)
NNTP, so awesome until 95% of its resources were consumed by its abuse as a file sharing platform for (naughty to nasty) images and pirated software and until power-hungry local group moderators started abusive banning/deleting practices against people who disagreed with their opinions on politics etc.

People want their own fluffy & safe social bubbles, not open, distributed networks.

Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by Gigablah on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @11:14PM (#16635066)
You do realize that DDG is the modern incarnation of Dogpile?

Also, why are we pretending that Bing, Yandex and Baidu don't exist?

Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by endisukaj on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @06:38AM (#16636858)
Because Yandex and Baidu give your data to some of the worst governments in the world.
Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by lazyjones on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @08:26AM (#16637420)
IRC, so awesome, until local server admins began k-lining people for disagreeing with them.
Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by sureaboutthis on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @09:19AM (#16637744)
An aside and coincidentally, WhatsApp runs on FreeBSD.
Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by peterwwillis on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @11:10PM (#16635046)
you can afford a dedicated openbsd system?! i'd have to use a friend's free shell account and hope i don't get klined (again)
Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by lgregg on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @09:26PM (#16634501)
you lost me after openbsd.
Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by walrus01 on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @09:41PM (#16634581)
Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by lgregg on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @11:29PM (#16635153)
ahhh, Yes... I remember IRC. I used a different client though.

I looked at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_C...

mIRC is the only familiar one. Then again, this was back when I was a kid. Vaguely related, AIM was my jam. I was a script kiddy and needed IRC to talk to all the l337 h4ck3r5.

Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by danielvf on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @09:40PM (#16634569)
Definitions:

bitchx - an IRC client: http://www.bitchx.com/

efnet - one of the oldest IRC networks, founded in 1990

Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by portofcall on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @09:40PM (#16634575)
IRC baby, and efnet is an old network you can connect to. Bitchx is an irc client, free last I checked. To GP, are eggdrop bots still a thing?
Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by walrus01 on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @09:43PM (#16634588)
I believe they are, though I haven't checked in a long time. Seems to be semi actively maintained.

https://github.com/eggheads/eggdrop

Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by dopamean on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @01:17AM (#16635669)
irssi
Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by walrus01 on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @04:11AM (#16636336)
Back in my day we walked uphill to the vt100 terminal both ways, used ircII, and irssi didn't exist yet.
Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by dopamean on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @05:34PM (#16642634)
lol touche
Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by fabianhjr on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @02:30AM (#16635980)
Scuttlebutt, a decentralized social network. ( http://scuttlebutt.nz/ )

> I do miss the mad west of the IRC/NNTP days

Plus, a lot of new people on there have described it like that. https://viewer.scuttlebot.io/%25WJZGMingRgdlOTrZJjOz7GHnS1D9...

Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by threeseed on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @09:30PM (#16634518)
It's the wrong question.

Social networks are nothing more than a reflection of our society. Blaming Facebook and Twitter is easy but the hard part is dealing with the polarisation in politics, the intransingence of Russia, the inability of people to know who to trust and what is real or not and the slow disintegration of our institutions.

The real question is how do you fix society ?

Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by ahtu123 on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @02:25AM (#16635956)
Having access to the detailed user data of billions of users is definitely something new and it's being used for efficient propaganda worldwide. FB has again completely naively unleashed a beast they had no intention or intuition on how to control. Anyone who remembers Facebooks early days should not be the least bit surprised that they are playing fast and loose once again.
Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by ggg9990 on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @09:54PM (#16634653)
The same can be said about a lot of things like littering, gun violence, etc, but there’s still things you can do to treat the symptomz
Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by wu-ikkyu on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @08:53AM (#16637572)
The digital economy at large is based on the mass manipulation and abuse of negative emotions. Profit over people.

"We as a nation must undergo a radical revolution of values. We must rapidly begin [applause], we must rapidly begin the shift from a thing-oriented society to a person-oriented society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights, are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, extreme materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered."

Dr. King, Beyond Vietnam (1967)

http://kingencyclopedia.stanford.edu/encyclopedia/documentse...

Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by moosebear on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @10:17PM (#16634753)
I think both questions are good.

People ask for tools and then the tools shape them.

Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by kawfey on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @09:52AM (#16637955)
As a ham radio nerd, packet bulletin board systems should really make a comeback. They fell apart as the internet came about, but in an effort to re-invigorate the now-unused spectrum and hardware TNCs[1] all over the place, APRS[2] was created, which has this nifty feature[3]. We also have a type of email system called Winlink[4] (which runs using the ARDOP protocol[5] or VARA[6] replacing Winmor[7] and Pactor[8]).

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_node_controller

[2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_Packet_Reporting_Sys...

[3]https://aprs.fi/

[4]https://www.winlink.org/

[5]https://www.winlink.org/content/ardop_overview

[6]https://rosmodem.wordpress.com/

[7]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winmor

[8]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PACTOR

Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by drngdds on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @11:20PM (#16635099)
Mastodon or other decentralized platforms. Or nothing. That's a pretty good option too.
Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by TheSmiddy on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @02:37AM (#16636009)
I've been using MeWe recently, it's basically like classic facebook (chronological, not full of crap you didn't sign up for) but sadly doesn't have a critical mass of users yet.
Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by f2n on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @09:37PM (#16634554)
Mastadon
Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by Froyoh on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @12:40PM (#16639801)
Why but just use Facebook to announce you're nuking your FB account and Twitter to announce the same
Re:WhatsApp co-founder tells everyone to delete Facebook by trimbo on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @12:59AM (#16635603)
Post to your .plan file