Re:Police Say Video Shows Woman Stepped Suddenly in Front of...
by PunchTornado on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @02:43PM
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Why didn't the human hit the brake? I don't understand how this is even news to be honest. There was a human in the driving seat and he failed to stop just like the computer.
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Re:Police Say Video Shows Woman Stepped Suddenly in Front of...
by dzdt on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:53PM
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Probably the human wasn't paying close attention. That is the problem with level 3-4 automated vehicles: a human who is not in primary control of the vehicle has trouble paying attention and is unable to take over control quickly if it is needed.
Re:Police Say Video Shows Woman Stepped Suddenly in Front of...
by u801e on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @08:04PM
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That's why I think vehicle automation development follow the path where the computer is not in primary control of the vehicle and can take over quickly when needed. Unlike humans, computers don't have trouble paying attention.
Re:Police Say Video Shows Woman Stepped Suddenly in Front of...
by branchan on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @06:10PM
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Wait, are you now blaming level 3-4 automated vehicles for the inattention of the human?
Re:Police Say Video Shows Woman Stepped Suddenly in Front of...
by ben_w on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @06:34PM
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It’s a problem people knew about back when “autopilot” was just for aircraft, not cars.
https://blog.prototypr.io/automation-is-making-us-dumber-and...
Re:Police Say Video Shows Woman Stepped Suddenly in Front of...
by makomk on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @07:43PM
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Ultimately, we have to design systems for the humans that actually exist, not some hypothetical superhuman. If it's not safe for actual humans to use then it's not safe full stop. It's not like this is some new issue; it's one of the main reasons why experts have been pessimistic about the prospects of self-driving cars and why existing car companies have been reluctant to deploy heavy automation in the field.
Re:Police Say Video Shows Woman Stepped Suddenly in Front of...
by ceejayoz on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @09:44PM
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I think he's blaming the folks who put level 3-4 vehicles on the road presumably knowing full well that said human inattention would put people at serious risk of injury and death in the car's edge cases.
Re:Police Say Video Shows Woman Stepped Suddenly in Front of...
by Scaevolus on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @03:07PM
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Computers have better reaction times than humans. Forcibly braking is a simple maneuver.
Re:Police Say Video Shows Woman Stepped Suddenly in Front of...
by IncRnd on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @11:46PM
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> Computers have better reaction times than humans. Forcibly braking is a simple maneuver.
The question isn't about the MHZ speed of a computer or the theoretical reaction time but the lack of reaction by the computer in the actual real world. It doesn't matter if this is a sensor failure, a software bug, or a slow reaction by a computer. The result is the same. A person died.
From the article:
*"... the lack of braking or swerving whatsoever is alarming and suggests that the system never anticipated the collision.”