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Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by refurb on Monday March 19, 2018 @01:40PM (#16620756)
Whistleblowing can be it's own business model, just do a google search for Ven-a-care.

Ven-a-care is a small pharmacy down in the Florida Keys. A few decades ago, it started to notice that the price it was paying for certain drug was very different from what the gov't thought they cost. Gov't price reporting is incredibly strict in pharma due to past mucking with the numbers.

So they started a lawsuit which was picked up by the DOJ.

Then they did it again, and again, and again.

Last I saw, they've racked up almost $600M in whistleblower awards.[1]

[1]https://www.cnbc.com/id/41491563

Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by gadders on Monday March 19, 2018 @02:08PM (#16621188)
Bradley Birkenfeld did quite well whistleblowing on UBS [1]. $104m.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Birkenfeld#Whistleblow...

Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by s73v3r_ on Monday March 19, 2018 @03:29PM (#16622216)
Considering many of these people end up blacklisted from their industry, we as a society kind of owe it to them.
Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by maxxxxx on Monday March 19, 2018 @06:53PM (#16624089)
We owe that guy 104 million?
Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by marvin on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @04:49AM (#16626892)
We definitely owe them enough money that they could comfortably fill the payment gap to their next job (which might be never, meaning enough money to pay for inflation-adjusted lost income during the entire remainder of their career).

But in the name of pragmatism, it is unlikely that whistleblowers would blow the whistle on a purely economical basis if the reward wasn't higher than that.

Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by maxxxxx on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @01:17PM (#16630542)
Then we should also pay whistleblowers who report environmental issues a lot of money. I don't think that's the case.
Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by telchar on Monday March 19, 2018 @09:04PM (#16625001)
If someone saves you a billion, what's $100m?
Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by coupdetaco on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @02:29AM (#16626390)
What is society but our debts to eachother
Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by s73v3r_ on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @11:45AM (#16629563)
Considering that money came out of the fine that their employer paid, I don't see a problem.
Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by gowld on Monday March 19, 2018 @03:49PM (#16622413)
"Doing well by doing good."
Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by bharris62 on Monday March 19, 2018 @04:01PM (#16622544)
you cannot be fired for being a whistleblower, so if you 'all the sudden' had performance problems and got fired shortly after whistleblowing, i imagine courts would side with you.
Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by s73v3r_ on Monday March 19, 2018 @05:28PM (#16623366)
There are lots of things that you're not supposed to be fired for, that people get fired for. Unfortunately, the onus is on the employee, with almost no resources, to prove that the company was lying.
Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by chadash on Monday March 19, 2018 @04:17PM (#16622683)
Sure, you can't be fired easily. But what about when it comes time for a raise or promotion? What about when you are interviewing for your next role? It's hard to imagine anyone getting punished for discriminating in these cases, since it's always easy to pin it on other things.
Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by xenihn on Monday March 19, 2018 @05:33PM (#16623414)
This is not how reality works at all. You're fantasizing.
Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by duxup on Monday March 19, 2018 @10:59PM (#16625679)
They fire or sideline you for something else and you never get a job in that industry again.

And if you want to fight it, it's you vs. an army of corporation backed lawyers.

Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by make3 on Monday March 19, 2018 @07:15PM (#16624283)
if you really can't be fired, you surely won't be doing any actual work ever, even if you still get paid.
Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by nl on Monday March 19, 2018 @05:07PM (#16623178)
What a strange story. He spent 40 months in prison for the things he blew the whistle on, and was the only person jailed for it.

Then he later received $104m, and yet still no one else went to prison.

Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by AlexCoventry on Monday March 19, 2018 @01:59PM (#16621068)
It's great that Markopolos has found a way to make his forensic skills pay.
Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by dmix on Monday March 19, 2018 @05:44PM (#16623519)
And in pharma it will continue to keep paying and paying as the fundamental problems creating 500% markups on drugs is never being solved [1]:

> "What they discovered was that they were buying drugs for a buck and Uncle Sam was paying $5 for 'em,” Burns says. “Five-hundred percent markups, 1,000 percent markups, 2,000 percent markups that Uncle Sam was paying.”

[1] http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/08/29/reverse-voxsplaining-dr...

Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by Bromskloss on Monday March 19, 2018 @04:05PM (#16622571)
> the price it was paying for certain drug was very different from what the gov't thought they cost

Is this a sign of wrongdoing? I don't know how things are supposed to work.

Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by refurb on Monday March 19, 2018 @05:08PM (#16623191)
Drug pricing isn't transparent. The list price is publically available, but many manufacturers offer point of sales discounts or rebates. For some drugs the actual price might only be 10% of the list price.

This makes it hard for Medicare and Medicaid to know how much to reimburse. It's in the drug company's and the pharmacy's best interest that what Medicare pays is as high as possible, since the difference between acquisition cost and reimbursement is profit in the pocket of the pharmacy. It also benefits drug companies since that profit incentivized use and what do they care? It's not their money.

What the gov't does is require every drug company to report various prices. What is the average price the drug is sold at (inclusive of all discount/rebates)? What's the lowest price the drug is sold at? The gov't then uses this information to determine how much to reimburse.

Some of these companies simply reported the wrong prices to the gov't that resulted in inflated reimbursement. That violation falls under the False Claim Act (from the US Civil War) and the companies get sued for every pill they sold at that wrong price. So it adds up.

Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by pbhjpbhj on Monday March 19, 2018 @07:15PM (#16624284)
>and the companies get sued for every pill they sold at that wrong price. //

They should instead lose all profits, and the C-grades lose all that years compensation and be barred temporarily from starting any new companies.

Only if misdeeds jeopardise their other profits will they take notice, otherwise it's always worth trying the fraud because they can do some business without fraudulently presenting prices and so maintain the business.

These sorts of deleterious actions should lead to punishment that risks putting the company in to receivership.

Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by refurb on Monday March 19, 2018 @08:31PM (#16624830)
One particular penalty that is an option is being disbarred from participating in Medicare/Medicaid. Depending on the disease the drug treats, that can be 50% of your market. And you're disbarred as an entity, not just the individual drug.

Interesting, when Pfizer was found to be promoting off-label use of their drug (another no-no), they were disbarred. Well... their Pharmacia-Upjohn subsidiary was disbarred. Luckily that entity doesn't actually have any sales.

Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by cr1895 on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @04:56AM (#16626915)
>is being disbarred from participating in Medicare/Medicaid. Depending on the disease the drug treats, that can be 50% of your market. And you're disbarred as an entity, not just the individual drug.

So the people on Medicare/Medicaid who may benefit from the drug are punished?

Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by refurb on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @06:38PM (#16633451)
You perfectly highlighted the problem of using this to penalize a company!

How do you punish a misbehaving company without hurting the people using their products?

Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by testvox on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @08:19PM (#16634101)
Nationalize it.
Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by refurb on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @10:39AM (#16638352)
I don't have a lot of faith the gov't can run a pharma company. Plus, confiscating a company is going to chase away any future investment.
Re:SEC Announces Its Largest-Ever Whistleblower Awards by Bromskloss on Tuesday March 20, 2018 @02:04AM (#16626333)
If prices aren't agreed upon beforehand, what prevents drugs for being sold at high prices (and truthfully reported)?