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Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by jsmith99 on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @07:48PM (#16589407)
> - Reminders (remind me to do X when I get home)

One thing it can't do is 'remind me to do X when I leave work'. Can siri?

Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by scarface74 on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @08:17PM (#16589538)
Yes and it can also remind you to do something when you "get in the car" or "get out of the car", if you have it paired to your Bluetooth in your car.
Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by dmd on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @08:45PM (#16589659)
But what none of them can do is what people actually need, which is "remind me to do X before I leave work".
Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by scarface74 on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @09:28PM (#16589866)
What signal could it pick up on before you leave work besides when you get in your car or after you leave somewhere?
Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by jannyfer on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @10:49PM (#16590125)
Sudden increase of movement (via the accelerometer) around the time they usually leave work, for example.

If I usually leave work around 5-6 and I start packing up my bag, that could be a signal.

Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by torstenvl on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @11:11PM (#16590177)
Would you use a Markov model for this?
Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by torstenvl on Thursday March 15, 2018 @01:13PM (#16594663)
Interesting. I guess I thought that discussing how to model a software problem would be an acceptable and interesting conversation on HN. Do any of the downvoters care to contribute in a productive way? I'd be curious to hear what people found disagreeable in my question.
Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by ddingus on Thursday March 15, 2018 @12:14AM (#16590367)
It could guess and or extrapolate, based on recent data.

For a lot of people it would be effective.

Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by paulie_a on Thursday March 15, 2018 @08:06AM (#16592070)
Nest is already pretty effective at learning schedules
Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by scarface74 on Thursday March 15, 2018 @01:25PM (#16594798)
Nest doesn't have to be accurate to the minute to be effective. A reminder based on before I leave work would be.

For instance, if I don't know what time aim getting off of work and I wanted a reminder to call my wife when I got to the car, it could do that completely accurately based on phone connecting to the car. It could only guess about doing something before I left work.

Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by glhaynes on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @08:12PM (#16589506)
Yes. "Hey Siri, remind me to bring a change of clothes when I leave home." just now created an appropriate item in Reminders.
Re:How Apple let Siri fall behind the Google Assistant and A... by jbg_ on Thursday March 15, 2018 @06:22AM (#16591584)
which will, of course, trigger the reminder as you walk down the street away from home, forcing you to go back and get the change of clothes that you forgot.