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Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by DoubleMalt on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @04:23AM (#16583176)
2GB of RAM would've been more important to me than all the listed changes.
Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by gambiting on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @07:31AM (#16583939)
For this(and other) reason, the Asus Tinker Board looks like the superior choice, for very little more money than the Pi3:

https://www.asus.com/uk/Single-Board-Computer/Tinker-Board/

Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by kingosticks on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @08:16AM (#16584182)
The last time I checked out the Asus Tinker it was still suffering from horrendous software support and cost nearly twice as much in the UK (which it still does, £32 vs £55). So unless you NEED those extra features, I strongly disagree.
Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by onesun on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @09:05AM (#16584466)
I bought one and played with it over the holidays and there are a ton of OS options now. There's Armbian support now, which wasn't around at first, and it seems to be very stable and feature complete. The board is significantly more powerful than a Pi 3 with emulators and compiling and just about everything.
Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by kingosticks on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @09:22AM (#16584556)
I had so many problems with Tinker OS and I wasn't the only one. Never tried Armbian so maybe it's better, how's the graphics performance with that?
Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by zielmicha on Thursday March 15, 2018 @05:34AM (#16591408)
You can actually boot Raspbian (or probably any other ARM OS) on Asus Tinkerboard - you only need to copy some files to /boot (including kernel) from TinkerOS and several kilobytes of bootloader after partition table.

(That way you can prepare image that boots both on RPi and Tinkerboard)

Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by kingosticks on Thursday March 15, 2018 @06:00AM (#16591505)
That sounds cool! Does the tinker board hdmi/audio work when booting raspbian?
Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by zielmicha on Thursday March 15, 2018 @06:11AM (#16591555)
HDMI works (only kernel support and xserver-xorg-video-fbdev for Xorg is required), I haven't tested audio.

Example hybrid image for Tinkerboard and RPi is here (based on Ubuntu): https://files.husarion.com/husarion-core2-ros.img.xz (unfortunately the build scripts are not public yet)

Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by alexissantos on Thursday March 15, 2018 @09:26PM (#16597917)
I can vouch. As of November 2017, software support was still pretty rough.
Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by floatboth on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @12:52PM (#16586151)
ROCK64!

http://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/ROCK64_Main_Page

4 gigabytes of LPDDR3. USB 3. GbE. eMMC. Onboard SPI flash. Unfortunately Mali GPU, but lima is actively developed now…

Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by cjdaly on Thursday March 15, 2018 @12:35AM (#16590428)
yes! for headless/server type applications I think this is the sweet spot right now. In the US, Ameridroid is faster than ordering direct from pine64 (in my experience).

The biggest downside for me is Rock64 doesn't have an OS with the pedigree of Raspbian. I'm running the 'ayufan' minimal ubuntu xenial, and it seems solid. but when I've played around with a monitor in the full xenial build I've seen some crashes and lockups.

Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by fulafel on Thursday March 15, 2018 @07:39AM (#16591906)
Is there a stable Os for it that gets timely security patches etc? (Not that Raspbian does too well here either..)
Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by floatboth on Thursday March 15, 2018 @09:43AM (#16592743)
Arch Linux ARM! https://github.com/m01/rock64-arch-linux-build (it's literally generic aarch64 arch, no more "for this board")

and really any Linux distro can be installed like that

+ "soon", FreeBSD (possible to boot already, but very few drivers have been already written https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arm/2018-Februar...)

Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by mrmondo on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @08:14AM (#16584162)
Yeah, although adding usable wireless is a big bonus - I wish it had 2-4GB of RAM and I wish you could put the USB ports into gadget mode like you can with the zero, but preferably at least two or more ports that can work with it. Also - I’m really disappointed there’s still no GbE.
Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by theandrewbailey on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @08:44AM (#16584346)
The 3B+ has GbE, though bottlenecked by USB 2.
Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by boris on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @04:33AM (#16583210)
Or even 4G. Would be nice to have a high-memory variant especially seeing that that would require zero changes in the OS unlike most othet hardware variations.
Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by AdrianoKF on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @04:49AM (#16583261)
As far as I can remember, the system-on-chip architecture limits the maximum amount of RAM to 1 GB (I'll try and find an official source, it's probably somewhere in the BCM283x peripherals documentation).

Not to say Broadcom couldn't spin a newer revision of the SoC with a different internal architecture, but for now it seems that >1 GB of RAM would require substantially more effort than just swapping the DRAM module on the board.

Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by boris on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @08:05AM (#16584112)
Right, RAM is part of the SoC... that probably makes the idea pretty much a no-go.
Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by AdrianoKF on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @12:38PM (#16585990)
The RAM was only integrated on the SoC on earlier models (called a package-on-package, PoP -- see https://elinux.org/RPi_Hardware#Components)

Later versions (I think starting with RPi 2) have a separate DRAM chip on the bottom side of the PCB.

Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by Greg-J on Friday March 16, 2018 @05:01PM (#16603994)
Agreed. I would have liked to see an updated video core. A Vulkan announcement would have been big news.
Re:New Raspberry Pi Model B+ by driverdan on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @01:02PM (#16586251)
For network applications the improved networking speeds are far more important.