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Re:Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searc... by arca_vorago on Monday March 12, 2018 @04:29PM (#16571275)
Stop flying so much and tell them when the time comes fuckoff and come back with a warrant or at least get an officer who can explain under what authority do they conduct domestic searches without a warrant, ergo, unconstitutionally?

Ah, you know what, I get it. They want to bring back the 90's cryptowars. They will lose again.

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Re:Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searc... by reaperducer on Monday March 12, 2018 @04:40PM (#16571380)
> Stop flying so much and tell them when the time comes fuckoff and come back with a warrant

In other words, stop flying completely. Because with that reaction, you're not getting in the plane.

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Re:Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searc... by logfromblammo on Monday March 12, 2018 @05:18PM (#16571746)
But at least your settlements will pay for your lawyers and bus fare after a few years of foot-dragging litigation.
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Re:Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searc... by graeme on Monday March 12, 2018 @04:48PM (#16571459)
This is terribly dangerous advice for a border crossing.
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Re:Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searc... by leggomylibro on Monday March 12, 2018 @04:52PM (#16571505)
On the other hand, a big part of nonviolent resistance as preached by figures like Gandhi and MLK Jr. is acknowledging that your actions may get you detained by a civil power. You'd be relying on the arbitrary, capricious, and in your view reprehensible nature of the charges to sway public opinion and stoke outrage.

It's not good advice if you are an individual who just wants to avoid the inside of a prison cell, and it's definitely dangerous, but I'd still admire anyone with the strength of character to follow through with it.

It's also terrible advice in countries where the preferred solution is simply to murder loud activists. At least you can theoretically be released from prison.

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Re:Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searc... by graeme on Monday March 12, 2018 @05:41PM (#16571921)
That's true, and a good point. And if someone tried to organize a movement to resist capricious border treatment, I think that would be laudable.

I'm less sure about an individual reading that advice and swearing at a border guard. Both Ghandi and MLK used mass resistance to achieve their ends.

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Re:Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searc... by Chaebixi on Monday March 12, 2018 @05:12PM (#16571678)
Depends on who you are, whose border, and which direction.

If you're an American returning from abroad, my understanding is the most they can do is detain you (briefly) and confiscate your electronic devices for a limited period of time. Americans can't be denied re-entry to the US. So go ahead and refuse as a political statement, the worst that could happen is you'll miss your connection and you'll have to use a temporary phone for a bit.

But if you're a foreign citizen, it's probably best to swallow your pride and comply.

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Re:Questions for TSA after reports of laptop and phone searc... by toomuchtodo on Monday March 12, 2018 @05:18PM (#16571739)
As it relates to an American returning from abroad, it doesn't appear what "briefly" means. From about 5 minutes of Googling, it appears anywhere up to 12 hours of detention is possible (based on a 2008 CBP internal memo).

Detentions have lasted more than 24 hours though, sometimes for days:

"Median Number of Hours Individuals Were Held in Detention, by Sector"

https://i.imgur.com/MNYTJzF.png

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