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Re:AI Has a Hallucination Problem That's Proving Tough to Fix by abhishek0318 on Saturday March 10, 2018 @06:18AM (#16558068)
If we are to mass deploy self driving cars, we must solve this problem. No one would want to travel by cars that could be tricked so easily.

This also leads to a moral and legal questions. If a self driving car injures someone, who will be responsible, the person owning the car or the manufacturer?

Re:AI Has a Hallucination Problem That's Proving Tough to Fix by eitland on Saturday March 10, 2018 @06:56AM (#16558139)
I think Volvo mentioned at some point that when they released fully self driving cars the responsibility would be on them as long as the car was in autonomous mode.

Since then I think they've postponed the plans for fully automatic driving though.

Re:AI Has a Hallucination Problem That's Proving Tough to Fix by NewEntryHN on Saturday March 10, 2018 @11:23AM (#16559034)
There's no need to completely solve it. It just needs to happen statistically less often than human failures. And I believe this won't be hard.
Re:AI Has a Hallucination Problem That's Proving Tough to Fix by argonaut on Saturday March 10, 2018 @06:25PM (#16560685)
Well currently the attacks work 100% of the time.
Re:AI Has a Hallucination Problem That's Proving Tough to Fix by modernerd on Saturday March 10, 2018 @07:31AM (#16558229)
“No one would want to travel by cars that could be tricked so easily.”

https://xkcd.com/1958/

Re:AI Has a Hallucination Problem That's Proving Tough to Fix by perl4ever on Saturday March 10, 2018 @07:48AM (#16558285)
That cartoon seems naive to me, in that one might be concerned about self-driving cars being vulnerable to malicious activity that scales in a way that attacks against human-driven cars don't.
Re:AI Has a Hallucination Problem That's Proving Tough to Fix by yorwba on Saturday March 10, 2018 @08:05AM (#16558343)
The attacks that scale are unlikely to involve fooling the object detection pipeline by manipulating its input (because you need to physically modify the environment to do that), but rather something like compromising the firmware update servers, stealing the signing key and pushing a remote killswitch.

So the weak point in this case isn't the fragility of machine learning against adversarial inputs, but old-fashioned network security.

Re:AI Has a Hallucination Problem That's Proving Tough to Fix by swombat on Saturday March 10, 2018 @08:04AM (#16558339)
Spreading tyre piercing shrapnel out your window on a busy motorway scales pretty well I imagine. Luckily moth people have better things to do with their time!