Re:Location-based ads are growing
by kaycebasques on Sunday March 04, 2018 @08:41PM
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A few months back I walked by a Steinway piano store, stopped for a few moments to window shop, and went on my way, without ever mentioning anything about pianos explicitly on a computer (like I'm doing now). A couple days later, I got an ad in the mail offering a discount on a Steinway.
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I hear stories like this a lot in the context of "Facebook is listening to my conversations through my phone microphone"
I think more likely is that we forget how many ads we're exposed to in a day. The odds of occasional eerie coincidences is high.
Re:Location-based ads are growing
by dillondoyle on Sunday March 04, 2018 @10:22PM
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I completely agree in terms of people saying FB 'listens' as in records audio.
But one thing people often overlook with hyper-local geo ads are bluetooth beacons which are tracked at most major retailers these days. Doesn't help that Apple trying to help people use wireless headphones now likes to turn bluetooth on every day (the lock screen bluetooth button defaults to 'off until tomorrow')
Re:Location-based ads are growing
by FridgeSeal on Sunday March 04, 2018 @10:39PM
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Combined with the fact that, as of the most recent version of iOS, "turning off" wifi or bluetooth in the quick menu just disconnects you from whatever network or device you're connected to, it doesn't actually disable either despite the visual indicators (and past behaviour) suggesting that they are disabled.
unpaired bluetooth and unconnected wifi are gold for anyone wanting to track you around a space.
Re:Location-based ads are growing
by supbitcoin on Monday March 05, 2018 @12:22AM
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I don't get it, how would you identifity someone with their wifi turned on ?
Re:Location-based ads are growing
by dillondoyle on Wednesday March 07, 2018 @05:56PM
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And bluetooth beacons (which you can get geo position without having to pair) are uniquely identifiable and used by almost all big box stores..
If the WiFi is on, you broadcast your MAC, which is uniquely identifiable unless you root your phone and install software to change this fact.
IIRC current android and iOS devices will probe Wifi using a randomized MAC and only use the real mac once connecting for realsies.
researchers found that "the overwhelming majority of
Android devices are not implementing the available
randomization capabilities built into the Android OS,"
which makes such Android devices trivial to track.
[...]
Apple, meanwhile, introduced MAC address randomization in
iOS 8, only to break it in iOS 10. [...] its network probe
broadcasts to include a distinct Information Element (IE),
data added to Wi-Fi management frames to extend the Wi-Fi
protocol.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/10/mac_address_randomi... four scholars from the US Naval Academy say they've
managed to track 100% of all test smartphones, despite
the devices using randomized MAC addresses.
[...]
The novelty in our method is that we are sending RTS
frames to IEEE 802.11 client devices, not APs, to
extract a CTS response message which we derive the true
global MAC address of that device.
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/researchers-b...Don't forget the ultrasound-based tracking.
That's possible and maybe even is deployed somewhere, but I think it is still very unlikely to encounter it. We're overwhelmingly looking at ads that are targeted based on something obvious like zipcode and age.
I had a couple "similar" experiences. For a long time now, Google has been collecting data and building shadown profiles, but so far they never used their data for ads. At least not in any apparent way. But recently, I noticed that even with my cookies deleted, Google "checks" to see if it's me with 2 major ways: one is IP and user-agent, and the other is queries/browsing preferences. If it figures out it's probably me, it switches to personalized mode.
Of course it's one of the things you can't be certain about. I'm certainly not. I could be just my idea, but I think it might be happening.
By "ad in the mail" do you mean email or postal mail?