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Re:Health IQ Careers by michael_storm on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:34PM (#16516153)
People, I think we’re missing some of the other buried gold here. Some highlights:

We do a daily standup where we don't discuss why something is late. Instead we each spend 10 seconds on what we actually shipped today.

So if I’m blocked on Jim, and Jim is shipping his own features and ignoring me, Jim looks good and I look bad. Cool, cool.

A track record of success. We believe winners have always won. All candidates will be asked to submit a 'brag sheet' as part of our interview process. This is a listing of every accomplishment you've ever had. If you won the spelling bee in the 2nd grade we want to know about it, etc.

Trying something hard and failing is apparently not something Health IQ can get behind. Better hope you’ve had a lot of good things happen to you since the second grade! Or have played it pretty safe since then; they don’t want the stench of your failures interrupting treadmill standup.

We don't have sugar, candy bars, soda (diet or otherwise) in our office. If you bring some it will get thrown away.

My personal dietary choices are now my employer’s business. Awesome. I would like to work there, just so I could throw out other people’s property that has even one gram of sugars in it. Fuck your milk.

Although, hey, at least they’re honest about being creepy counterproductive weirdos. It’ll make the eventual lawsuit easier.

Re:Health IQ Careers by oceanghost on Sunday March 04, 2018 @11:38PM (#16518757)
I think we should ALL apply and mess with these guys. I'm gonna come to the interview with a beer and a twizzler straw. Does anyone know of a compound that will look like crystal meth when burned in a meth pipe during an interview? (but not be meth lol)

My brag sheet... the true stuff I could say nobody would even believe.

Re:Health IQ Careers by friendly_chap on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:15PM (#16516048)
While I agree with the drive to stay healthy these dudes sounds like they are incredibly detached from reality.

Candy will be thrown away? Dude, take it or leave it, no one is forcing you to eat crap in any office.

Logging back to the computer at 8/9? Sure, man, that sounds extremely healthy.

Re:Health IQ Careers by DamonHD on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:03PM (#16515978)
Should think that "Only fit able-bodied should apply" is simply illegal in many jurisdictions. Would medically-overweight wheelchair-bound black gays be rejected and on which grounds? At least one or two might prevent them entering the "wall sit time" competition... None should be relevant factors for hiring.
Re:Health IQ Careers by paulddraper on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:24PM (#16516085)
In the US, you cannot discriminate in hiring based on race, religion, sex, age (though IIRC you can discriminate against, if under 40), religion, disability, pregnancy, genetic info, or citizenship. https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/ Unless one of those is intrinsically necessary for the job function (e.g. actor, manual labor, military).

It's one thing to restrict sugar at the office, it's another if they actual hire for office jobs based on age, disability, or genetic testing.

Obesity, FYI, has not been classified as a disability. http://time.com/4883176/weight-discrimination-workplace-laws... https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=a2bcd2c9-9e60... In most of the US, "Must have BMI 18-24" is a legally permissable (albeit unwise) employment retirement.

Also "employer" in this context requires 15+ employees.

Re:Health IQ Careers by hashkb on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:12PM (#16516026)
Why did you have to bring race and sexual orientation into it?
Re:Health IQ Careers by DamonHD on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:14PM (#16516036)
To show that they are equally irrelevant to a hire, and excluding someone on medical (eg disability) grounds is as offensive legally in many places for good reasons.
Re:Health IQ Careers by oldcynic on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:16PM (#16516053)
That is more or less every red flag to see about a potential employer.

I imagine it's extremely successful at thinning the number of applicants.

Re:Health IQ Careers by hodl on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:17PM (#16516062)
Can we get the HN title changed? It makes it sound like they are illegally discriminating but I see no evidence on the site.
Re:Health IQ Careers by Brian_K_White on Monday March 05, 2018 @01:37AM (#16519191)
These guys would never hire you with such poor sight.
Re:Health IQ Careers by DamonHD on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:18PM (#16516067)
There are plenty of words on the site that would set off klaxons for me, and IANAL.
Re:Health IQ Careers by paulddraper on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:43PM (#16516228)
Suggest an actual quote as the title then.

The HN title should be less sensational then the source material not more.

Re:Health IQ Careers by bradsmmns on Sunday March 04, 2018 @03:14PM (#16516426)
This string is pretty disappointing for it's trolling tendencies. As an employee at HealthIQ we are a diverse team, 40%+ women, 40%+ minority and we strive each day to celebrate and reward the health conscious.
Re:Health IQ Careers by wyas on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:24PM (#16516088)
First time I'm hearing of these guys, however I'm not sure where -- if anywhere -- it says that only fit able-bodied should apply. In fact, the words "fit" and "able" aren't even anywhere in the page. The title of this post is incredibly misleading.

The company seems to have a culture of being incredibly health conscious. I'm very health conscious myself, but yes, to be honest, their method turns me off. However, I'm sure there's people out there that share the culture and values of this startup, and would work well here.

This post just seems to be meant at instigating online fights.

Re:Health IQ Careers by justin66 on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:32PM (#16516139)
> The title of this post is incredibly misleading.

Is it? I mean, when the description of the company indicates "We end most standups with a feats of strengths competition," then "only fit able-bodied should apply" seems like either good advice or a suitably ironic warning, depending on your politics.

Re:Health IQ Careers by paulddraper on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:42PM (#16516218)
The latter explicitly violates ADA law. The former does not, necessarily.
Re:Health IQ Careers by rainbowmverse on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:25PM (#16516096)
Treadmill desks.
Re:Health IQ Careers by wyas on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:30PM (#16516125)
I'm sorry, I don't follow. They are just saying they have treadmill desks that you can use. Not that all desks are treadmill desks.

> Our conference room is made up of 4 treadmill desks that face each other so you can do a walking meeting while seeing a presentation, rain or shine.

Re:Health IQ Careers by gergles on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:42PM (#16516220)
If this is the entire conference room, and you are in a wheelchair, then you can't attend whatever occurs in that room. I imagine you won't be a very productive employee without being able to attend any meetings that occur in the conference room.
Re:Health IQ Careers by wyas on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:45PM (#16516241)
This is surely not true. They say they have 4 treadmill desks, and I suspect their conference room can fit more than 4 people.
Re:Health IQ Careers by maxxxxx on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:11PM (#16516020)
I am pretty health conscious myself but this feels like an oppressive cult to me.
Re:Health IQ Careers by RobLach on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:36PM (#16516171)
Exclusionary criteria aside, working in an office that’s actually a gym with weight training grunts and barbells clanking seems like it would get annoying real fast.
Re:Health IQ Careers by dictum on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:39PM (#16516201)
> A track record of success. We believe winners have always won.

I'm nearly sure this is a long-term marketing campaign in which they'll flip the script later with something to the tune of "see how hard things can be for people with health issues? we're here to solve that" etc.

But that's the part where I lost it – because even if this is an honest parody, this mindset is quite pervasive in real life, especially in the US. You don't just have to be great in life today, you must have always had a great life.

Re:Health IQ Careers by sharph on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:34PM (#16516156)
While I'd be very happy to have this kind of gym at work the general vibe seems like a cult-like overreach, particularly the needing a personal or family story thing. Leave peoples' health histories out of hiring.

That said, there is nothing to prevent someone in a wheelchair, for example, from being or becoming fit. Nor does not being fit prevent you from working towards fitness.

Re:Health IQ Careers by AndrewOMartin on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:14PM (#16516031)
They sound like a bunch of unmitigated arseholes.
Re:Health IQ Careers by throwaway5752 on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:14PM (#16516033)
This has to be a peak in the current funding cycle.
Re:Health IQ Careers by hodl on Sunday March 04, 2018 @09:01PM (#16518156)
HBO step aside. Reality is stranger than fiction!
Re:Health IQ Careers by gnarbarian on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:24PM (#16516092)
FEATS OF STRENGTH We end most standups with a feats of strengths competition. Our current record wall sit time is 5 minutes.

I love this. I would totally work here.

Re:Health IQ Careers by gaze on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:30PM (#16516129)
This encapsulates why I left Silicon Valley.
Re:Health IQ Careers by ageyfman on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:14PM (#16516040)
is this a parody?
Re:Health IQ Careers by DamonHD on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:16PM (#16516052)
I went and re-read it to try to be sure. It seems to be serious.
Re:Health IQ Careers by ageyfman on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:18PM (#16516066)
but they have 7 co-founders!
Re:Health IQ Careers by jxub on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:25PM (#16516093)
...and all fit and able-bodied!
Re:Health IQ Careers by gaze on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:31PM (#16516132)
And all of them named Chad
Re:Health IQ Careers by nathanaldensr on Sunday March 04, 2018 @05:52PM (#16517302)
Holy cow. "Companies not to work for: the post."
Re:Health IQ Careers by oh_sigh on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:15PM (#16516043)
You can be disabled and still health conscious. Health consciousness is about maximizing your body's health potential - not sidestepping physical realities such as a disabilities. In fact I would say it is probably more important for disabled people to be health conscious than able bodied people - at least there are probably worse health outcomes for disabled people who are also not health conscious vs abled bodied people.

This company does seem really stupid though: I love the end of their pitch where they say 'We believe winners have always won', so submit a brag sheet about everything you've ever done in your life.

Re:Health IQ Careers by acrefoot on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:29PM (#16516117)
Though I'm not sure I buy into their "winners have always won" hypothesis, I do find the "success by association" part interesting. This usually is discovered in the interview process, but how can it be better discovered in the screening stage?
Re:Health IQ Careers by IntronExon on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:26PM (#16516098)
Can you be disabled and “able-bodied” though? I mean.. dis-abled... it suggests something else. Even if this is totally legal though, it’s still psychopathic levels of creepy and cultish.
Re:Health IQ Careers by LanceH on Sunday March 04, 2018 @03:52PM (#16516640)
They never mentioned able-bodied, so what are you quoting?
Re:Health IQ Careers by IntronExon on Sunday March 04, 2018 @04:25PM (#16516853)
Good point, I took that from the title, which is clearly a conclusion drawn from the post, not actually in it.
Re:Health IQ Careers by IntronExon on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:14PM (#16516039)
How intensely creepy. As maxxxxx said, it sounds like a cult. As DamonHD said the wording sounds flatly illegal under the ADA. So what we have is some vaguely worded bullshit that a fresh law school grad wouldn’t let out of the door.

I almost hope it’s just a scam.

Re:Health IQ Careers by s_kilk on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:12PM (#16516024)
Who in their right mind would want to work with a cult of fit-supremacists.

Their hiring criteria are also probably illegal.

Re:Health IQ Careers by rainbowmverse on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:22PM (#16516079)
Why does a life insurance salesperson need to be fit and able-bodied?
Re:Health IQ Careers by jxub on Sunday March 04, 2018 @02:24PM (#16516089)
To avoid dying and taking advantage of some loophole in his life insurance, raking millions for his family and leaving the company bankrupt ;)
Re:Health IQ Careers by oceanghost on Sunday March 04, 2018 @09:58PM (#16518400)
This is a joke, right? If not its an attempt to minimize health care expenses.

My employer is usually the cause of my health issues (long hours, stress).