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Re:Reddit Dragged into Russian Propaganda Row by davzie on Friday March 02, 2018 @10:18AM (#16502051)
/r/politics is just as much the other way.

EDIT: Not sure if the downvotes are because you feel I support Trump (I'm a Brit, I have no allegiances) or something else. But you can't deny that /r/politics and the other subreddits like esist etc cause just as much drama. There's no nuanced debate anymore. Just pick a a team and fight to the death.

Re:Reddit Dragged into Russian Propaganda Row by nabla9 on Friday March 02, 2018 @10:44AM (#16502362)
The error you made is that you imply that fake news is somehow related to lack of nuance, biased news, single viewpoint, downvoting news you you don't like or drama in general.

Fake News is is deliberate misinformation and hoaxes published with the intent to mislead in order to damage an agency, entity, or person, and/or gain financially or politically.

I hope you understand the difference. You didn't see the nuance.

Re:Reddit Dragged into Russian Propaganda Row by zzzeek on Friday March 02, 2018 @10:34AM (#16502224)
"the other way" would imply /r/politics is filled with liberal false propaganda planted by a foreign enemy. Feel free to show any such examples.
Re:Reddit Dragged into Russian Propaganda Row by insickness on Friday March 02, 2018 @12:10PM (#16503443)
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7szc5h/announceme...

r/politics is just as tilted left and used by propaganda groups as r/donald is tilted right. If you think either side has a monopoly on rationality and pure intentions, you are deceiving yourself.

Re:Reddit Dragged into Russian Propaganda Row by zzzeek on Friday March 02, 2018 @01:07PM (#16504111)
moving the goalposts. r/poltitics is certainly tilted left, but is not filled with false left-wing propaganda illegally created by a foreign enemy.

ShareBlue is not a propaganda arm of a foreign enemy, it is a US-based partisan blog, and additionally the accusation here is that they commented without disclosure of their affiliation. that is nothing like the coordinated propaganda, false/stolen US identities, wire fraud, and other scam operations sponsored by the Russian government. There is no criminal indictment against ShareBlue.

Re:Reddit Dragged into Russian Propaganda Row by insickness on Friday March 02, 2018 @01:44PM (#16504463)
These supposed foreign entities helped just as many people on the left, like Bernie and impersonated left-leaning entities like Black Lives Matter. And their involvement was minimial (100k) compared to what the major political parties were spending on the election. Hillary spent 1.5 billion dollars.
Re:Reddit Dragged into Russian Propaganda Row by zzzeek on Friday March 02, 2018 @04:42PM (#16506010)
> like Bernie and impersonated left-leaning entities like Black Lives Matter.

yes but not within anything generally viewable on /r/politics

Re:Reddit Dragged into Russian Propaganda Row by insickness on Friday March 02, 2018 @11:06PM (#16507797)
Reddit had to tune its algorithm to make the_donald stop appearing on the front page. And it wasn't Russian bots upvoting Trump stuff. It was people who actually liked and voted for Trump. However you want to slice it, a good portion of this country voted for Trump on their own accord. Not because of Russians, but because they actually liked Trump. No one disputes this. So stop with the Russian bullshit. It just makes the left look like idiots, like they're trying to come up with a reason Hillary lost when in reality people just disagreed with what Hillary had to say. People are tired of this Russian stupidity. Everyone knows it doesn't pass the smell test. It's been years investigating this and the world's premier spy apparatus can't dig the dirt up on Trump. Think about what that tells you.
Re:Reddit Dragged into Russian Propaganda Row by jmull on Friday March 02, 2018 @12:15PM (#16503516)
Since you asked, I'll tell you why I think you deserve some downvotes...

First, it's a low-effort post.

Second, it's off-base. The article is about Russian propaganda influencing and dividing Americans. But your comment implies it's about something else, like anti-Trump groups being just as bad as pro-Trump groups.

Not to mention, after that low-effort, off-base comment, it's awfully cheeky to call for nuanced debate.

Re:Reddit Dragged into Russian Propaganda Row by taylorexpander on Friday March 02, 2018 @10:34AM (#16502229)
Does r/politics insight hate and literal violence?
Re:Reddit Dragged into Russian Propaganda Row by davesque on Friday March 02, 2018 @10:25AM (#16502132)
I think there's no nuanced debate because a lot of the issues in play aren't nuanced.
Re:Reddit Dragged into Russian Propaganda Row by nugi on Friday March 02, 2018 @10:30AM (#16502171)
Ecactly the kind of divisionist thought refrenced by OP.

Most people actually do want basically the same things. Polarizing them helps nobody.

Re:Reddit Dragged into Russian Propaganda Row by davesque on Friday March 02, 2018 @12:50PM (#16503911)
I think that's actually a straw man argument. For example, since when did pandering to literal Nazis (i.e. Charlottesville) become a nuanced topic? If r/politics has become more left-leaning in recent times, couldn't it simply be because of things like that? Humans do have tendency to form camps and take sides but sometimes one side really is way off base. I think this is one of those times. The effective leader of the Republican party (the Republican POTUS) continues to demonstrate on a daily basis his lack of basic character and empathy. This is not a nuanced issue and it's trivial to find examples of this.

When one side regularly crosses major red lines, people shouldn't cry foul to both sides when the debate rapidly becomes polarized.

Re:Reddit Dragged into Russian Propaganda Row by archagon on Friday March 02, 2018 @02:00PM (#16504615)
I disagree. A sizable portion of the population very clearly thinks of America as White Country, a perspective that is completely irreconcilable with the liberal melting pot approach.
Re:Reddit Dragged into Russian Propaganda Row by zdfjkhiuj on Friday March 02, 2018 @10:37AM (#16502273)
It's the truth. If reality really is black and white, it's not oversimplifying to acknowledge that.

Modern American politics are not complicated.

Re:Reddit Dragged into Russian Propaganda Row by Cthulhu_ on Friday March 02, 2018 @10:54AM (#16502491)
They should be though. As in, it should be a lot more nuanced, gray areas, and yes there is a middle ground between ban all guns and arm all teachers.
Re:Reddit Dragged into Russian Propaganda Row by davesque on Friday March 02, 2018 @05:02PM (#16506163)
But there's very little middle ground between "there were bad people on both sides" (i.e. What Trump said after Charlottesville, clearly implying that Nazis deserve some kind of consideration amidst a protest in which people's blood was on their hands) and the outage people rightfully feel in response to comments like that. Sorry but there is no debate to be had with people like that. None. Zero.