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Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by dominotw on Saturday February 24, 2018 @03:49PM (#16455322)
It makes no sense. What is happening to people who are being replaced by cheaper immigrants.

They either

1. Left tech due to low salaries from immgration. I don't think this is true because tech still pays higher than almost any other field.

2. Working in tech for low(er) salary, which contradicts the orignal claim that only reason for importing tech workers is for lowering salaries.

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by NotSammyHagar on Saturday February 24, 2018 @05:01PM (#16455682)
I am conflicted about talking about this, because I'm a us citizen software engineer and benefit from the shortage. I love to read the perspective of someone on the other side.

I think there are these different kinds of tech workers. For lack of a better term lets call them IT staff and software engineers.

IT staff builds some new systems but mostly puts pieces together to solve problems. This kind of job is easier to replace with moderately skilled foreign tech workers, maybe even working remotely, there's more supply here for this kind of worker. Then there is the harder to find software engineers who can work on new software from scratch, perhaps with more experience in this kind of worker. There's an incredible demand for this kind of person, that's unquenchable at least today (perhaps it used to be infinite for it staff but no longer). We really do need more of the second category of workers. Certainly a little smaller supply of workers means higher salaries, but when you need double the supply, you can restrain growth of the industry.

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by FooBadDev on Sunday February 25, 2018 @08:32AM (#16458851)
Can you please elaborate on how someone who is currently IT Staff become a true software engineer ? Apart from work experience alone, because that would be a chicken and egg problem.
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by gowld on Sunday February 25, 2018 @01:30PM (#16460344)
Learn and practice programming in down time, then take a job interview.
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by NotSammyHagar on Monday February 26, 2018 @10:49PM (#16470942)
that sounds right. education, experience, doing things, trying.
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by echevil on Saturday February 24, 2018 @05:13PM (#16455741)
Are you saying people working in tech are paid too low nowadays in US?
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by jasonlotito on Saturday February 24, 2018 @06:13PM (#16456047)
Well, considering what Apple, Google, Intel, and other major tech firms did in colluding to not compete in hiring, this affected wages in the entire tech industry. So, one could make the argument that yes, working in tech is paying lower than what it's actually worth.

Are we being paid low? No.

Are we being paid lower than what we should be paid? I could see that argument being made.

Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by echevil on Saturday February 24, 2018 @07:29PM (#16456389)
All of the major tech firms could also just hire more aggressively in their overseas branches if the cost in hiring in US becomes too high. You’ll face globalization one way or another
Re:Trump administration cracks down on H-1B visa abuse by echevil on Saturday February 24, 2018 @07:37PM (#16456420)
As a tech worker I always feel super grateful that the job I like is also lucrative. There’s no end to greed.

Is it possible that we may get paid higher? Maybe

Do we deserve to get paid much higher than those equally talented people working elsewhere in the world? Or those who are super smart and hard working but not making much money just because they don’t work in tech? I don’t think so