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Re:Electron 2.0.0 beta by sime2009 on Thursday February 22, 2018 @03:44AM (#16436177)
Web technologies have some unique non-technical qualities which trump the technical arguments:

* Standards based with no single entity or company "owning" it.

* Multiple mature competing implementations.

* Massive support across the industry and a huge ecosystem.

Re:Electron 2.0.0 beta by pjmlp on Thursday February 22, 2018 @03:48AM (#16436204)
You mean like those "Works in IE/Chrome" standards?

I am yet to see the huge ecosystem for Web components that matches component libraries like those from DevExpress or ComponentOne.

Re:Electron 2.0.0 beta by Sawamara on Thursday February 22, 2018 @04:05AM (#16436284)
You have to actively ignore the web's landscape in the past 5-6 years to state something like this.

Lately, major vendors (with Edge, that includes Microsoft) are agreeing on standards, developing them FAST, and the web moves forward faster than it has ever moved. Long gone are the days where your standards can get stopped for multiple years. And vendor prefixes are less prevalent now as features get implemented properly sooner.

Re:Electron 2.0.0 beta by pjmlp on Thursday February 22, 2018 @04:40AM (#16436416)
Really?

https://ishoudinireadyyet.com/

https://www.webcomponents.org/

https://hangouts.google.com/

Also, to use those standards, one needs to have access to latest browser versions, which never happens beyond controlled environments.

So typical web development always needs Modernizr, Babel, Polyfills (when possible) around.

Re:Electron 2.0.0 beta by sime2009 on Thursday February 22, 2018 @05:01AM (#16436511)
The vast majority of current web development project don't need to go anywhere near the bleeding edge "still in development" browser APIs.

Your argument makes no sense in the year 2018.

Re:Electron 2.0.0 beta by pjmlp on Thursday February 22, 2018 @05:47AM (#16436681)
Depends, if they are trying to compete with native apps or not.

Of course if they just stick with the ideal model of hypertext documents, with a little bit of JS, it doesn't make sense.

As for web apps, I am ok with them, provided they run on the browser I have already installed, instead of faking native apps.

Re:Electron 2.0.0 beta by megaman22 on Thursday February 22, 2018 @10:06AM (#16437985)
Hey, some of us are still out here having to support IE 7... Glaciers move faster these days than some corporate clients.
Re:Electron 2.0.0 beta by NoGravitas on Thursday February 22, 2018 @10:25AM (#16438137)
And yet, I still frequently run into web applications that only run in Chrome. Mostly COTS enterprise products.
Re:Electron 2.0.0 beta by rimliu on Thursday February 22, 2018 @07:13AM (#16437002)
You have extra word in your second point. There is norhing mature. If anything webtech rushes implementation of some feature just so the checkbox “we can do it too” is ticked and that’s it.