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Re:B.C. vows crackdown after investigation reveals money-lau... by Cw67NTN8F on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @08:53AM (#16420277)
>>— Bad person masquerading as a legit lender could give a bag of cash to the seller at closing. Now the seller has a banking problem.

Not necessarily. If the price in cash makes up for the inflation losses you can easily pay for most things in cash. Or buy a money order when you can't. You can launder maybe as much as 60% of your income. Cash is spent and your legit salary goes to the bank.

Eating out? Cash

Vacation? Cash

Babysitter? Cash

Buy a used car? Cash (maybe even a new car...go to a like minded dealer)

Furniture? Cash

Home improvements? Cash

Clothes, jewelry? Cash

Obviously gotta do it in stages or else you stand out.

Re:B.C. vows crackdown after investigation reveals money-lau... by gwbas1c on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @09:17AM (#16420418)
That would severely limit the potential sellers. Many, if not most, sellers need to make a large lump sum payment when they leave their house. This can either be to pay off a current mortgage payment, buy another property, education expenses, ect, ect.

A family that received a million dollars in cash for a house, but then financed their new home as if they were first-time home buyers, would probably take 10-15 years to spend a million dollars in cash.

It just doesn't make sense, and the details are probably deliberately left out of the article. My (probably wrong) guess is that someone is selling cryptocurrency for paper cash, and that someone else is buying cryptocurrency with funds that are inside the banking system.

Re:B.C. vows crackdown after investigation reveals money-lau... by jandrese on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @12:08PM (#16421882)
When talking to the dealer at Carmax (which is large and theoretically reputable as far as car dealerships go) he said it wasn't that uncommon for people to pull out rolls of $100s and pay for cars in cash. He told us a story that implied the money was not from above board income, given the way the guy and his supposed wife was dressed and how they acted. Had no problem selling them a Caddy.

I dunno if there is some alternative verification that happens as part of the process, but he didn't make it sound like it.

Re:B.C. vows crackdown after investigation reveals money-lau... by Cw67NTN8F on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @12:20PM (#16421991)
Bottom line is that they want the sale. So they have figured a system where they do it x% of the time and get away with it. Maybe they place a part of the cash with another car transaction?

In theory all transactions above $10k in cash must be declared, but penalties are only if you get caught and bonus time /end of qtr is 18 days away.

Re:B.C. vows crackdown after investigation reveals money-lau... by jandrese on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @12:27PM (#16422060)
Come to think of it, I wonder if the "wife" was there solely to put her name on the transaction so if the feds come knocking it would be her name that they put on the warrant?
Re:B.C. vows crackdown after investigation reveals money-lau... by a2tech on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @01:58PM (#16422940)
My dad until recently has bought new vehicles every few years in cash.

Probably the most cash I've ever seen at once was when we bought a chunk of property in cash-we took a paper grocery sack full of cash to the real estate agency. You could tell they'd never seen that much cash in person.

Re:B.C. vows crackdown after investigation reveals money-lau... by kafkaesque on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @12:09PM (#16421892)
Ban cash. Most people use cards in the UK. We should push for that in North America.
Re:B.C. vows crackdown after investigation reveals money-lau... by Cw67NTN8F on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @12:16PM (#16421956)
Nope, not for me. Cash beats everything, where it's practical to use. And there's privacy
Re:B.C. vows crackdown after investigation reveals money-lau... by nyolfen on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @02:17PM (#16423165)
a guy i knew used to say something like “the british are a slave people without the torch of liberty in their hearts.” i used to think it was funny and weird but it just seems more true as time goes on.
Re:B.C. vows crackdown after investigation reveals money-lau... by acct1771 on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @02:29PM (#16423305)
Say it into the CCTV camera.
Re:B.C. vows crackdown after investigation reveals money-lau... by wavefunction on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @12:48PM (#16422238)
I like cash. It's the only semi-anonymous method of making payments.

For instance, I can offer cash to folks so their bosses don't snatch their tips.

Re:B.C. vows crackdown after investigation reveals money-lau... by privacypoller on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @02:15PM (#16423126)
I think you only feel this way as you generally agree with the process and "rules" around payment and settlement. Would you feel differently if you had a embarrassing or frowned-upon hobby, or didn't agree with some change to the centralized, public payment system?
Re:B.C. vows crackdown after investigation reveals money-lau... by kafkaesque on Thursday February 22, 2018 @12:26PM (#16439298)
I would think we should fund research and studies that deal with why such a hobby is embarrassing or frowned upon, if not illegal. Try to improve society by tackling the problem, not covering up for someone's misgivings.
Re:B.C. vows crackdown after investigation reveals money-lau... by Karunamon on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @12:47PM (#16422234)
Please no. The privacy and cant-buy-without-a-middleman concerns greatly outweigh the concerns of a small minority of bad-faith use.