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Re:Deodorants, perfumes, soaps pollute air at levels as high... by code_duck on Friday February 16, 2018 @03:56PM (#16396130)
Personally, I find the fragrances of personal care products far more offensive than the smell of a recently showered person without fragrances. It’s not my preference about the odor, it’s my reaction to the dozens of secret synthetic chemicals that they create the fragrance with. Essential oils are better, but still offensive and cause me various unpleasant symptoms and feelings.
Re:Deodorants, perfumes, soaps pollute air at levels as high... by pasquinelli on Friday February 16, 2018 @04:31PM (#16396553)
i agree totally, perfumes are almost exclusively suffocating. i feel like there's this arms race going on, where you get used to one level if fragrance and then a more potent one lures in people, and now the cover ups are getting pretty close to at least as bad as the stinks they're trying to cover up.
Re:Deodorants, perfumes, soaps pollute air at levels as high... by bsder on Friday February 16, 2018 @08:08PM (#16398164)
The problem is that all of the stuff that used to make perfumes persistent are all gone.

I received a really nice French cologne as a birthday gift back in the 80's--women loved it. It was low grade enough that only people very next to you would notice, and it would last days ... even after showers. This made for some interesting interactions with women at the office ... "Oh, looks like someone had a good weekend ..."

At some point, they had to change out the binder/fixer/whatever (presumably it's either horribly toxic or horribly cruel to skunks), and colognes haven't been the same since.

Now, in order to get a cologne to last even a couple of hours, they create things that are horrifically strong at start, and you still almost can't smell them several hours later.

(I actually had the misfortune to test this. My mother used Chanel No 5 Eau de Cologne that I would buy for her as a gift when she ran out or it went bad. The last one I bought smelled wrong as soon as I opened it--they reformulated it and discontinued it soon after. I wound up kicked through Chanel customer service to get some of the last "real" stock they had--they knew that the updated one was wrong and had kept a small amount for customer complaints (and presumably very rich patrons).)

Re:Deodorants, perfumes, soaps pollute air at levels as high... by jstarfish on Friday February 16, 2018 @11:35PM (#16399034)
I'm not old enough to know how cologne and perfume "used" to be, but it certainly works better (and longer) when it binds to oils.

Try using an oil-based soap, using a dab of unscented baby oil on your skin or not showering for a day before using perfumes.

Re:Deodorants, perfumes, soaps pollute air at levels as high... by tripzilch on Monday February 19, 2018 @10:15AM (#16413333)
AFAIK this is also in part because there is a difference between "perfume", "cologne", "eau de cologne", "eau de perfume"--some of these are probably the same, I forget the exact details. Someone once explained me there's three different types of smell-good liquids, and they mainly differ in how long they last. Often you have the same fragrance at various prices.
Re:Deodorants, perfumes, soaps pollute air at levels as high... by dredmorbius on Friday February 16, 2018 @10:48PM (#16398857)
Hrm... "Fixative" appears to be the term. Ambergris is one of several used, and the one I've heard of.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixative_(perfumery)

Re:Deodorants, perfumes, soaps pollute air at levels as high... by code_duck on Friday February 16, 2018 @10:28PM (#16398774)
What I don’t understand is how people wear half a dozen unrelated fragrances at once. Laundry detergent, dryer sheets, cologne, deodorant, shampoo, and sometimes people still add “air freshener” on top of that.
Re:Deodorants, perfumes, soaps pollute air at levels as high... by cbzbc on Saturday February 17, 2018 @02:37AM (#16399557)
It's possible to get unscented versions of most personal hygiene products- and generally you shouldn't be using so much shampoo that you smell it for hours after using it.
Re:Deodorants, perfumes, soaps pollute air at levels as high... by code_duck on Saturday February 17, 2018 @08:47AM (#16400640)
Most shampoo fragrance fades fairly fast, compared to scents meant to last all day like deodorant. But I think you are underestimating the strength of the fragrances in shampoo.

I do know of the fragrance-free options, of course, but I’ve suffered comfort issues from being near other people’s fragrances for over a decade. I have to try to find fragrance-free and natural versions of everything for my girlfriend.

It isn’t a problem for my own use, as I use very few personal care products, but it would be great if the general public understood the things you say.

Re:Deodorants, perfumes, soaps pollute air at levels as high... by remir on Friday February 16, 2018 @04:21PM (#16396447)
Drugstore brands such as Axe, Old Spice and Irish Spring are absolutely terrible. I'm currently using Dr Bronner's castile soap (eucalyptus) and while the smell is strong, it's not offensive. I also like Ivory (bar soap) and Every Man Jack.
Re:Deodorants, perfumes, soaps pollute air at levels as high... by culot on Friday February 16, 2018 @04:31PM (#16396560)
Desert Essence tea tree vegetable soap bar is also really excellent. It has only a mild smell going on, and leaves no scent behind. Also a killer lather and lasts a long time.

Their liquid soap.. no so good, doesn't lather well and doesn't go the distance.

Re:Deodorants, perfumes, soaps pollute air at levels as high... by remir on Friday February 16, 2018 @06:07PM (#16397389)
Thank you for the suggestion.
Re:Deodorants, perfumes, soaps pollute air at levels as high... by stinos on Saturday February 17, 2018 @04:34AM (#16399898)
far more offensive

So much. Had this one colleague, luckily not in the same room, but he once touched my screen (which is already a big no-go for me anwyay) and I could still smeel it days later. Maybe my sense of smell is too good, don't know, but this was rather unpleasant.