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Re:Netflix is getting huge, but can it get great? by jedberg on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @07:45PM (#16381003)
This is all over the place.

NBC and HBO are both networks. And so is Netflix. And Showtime, and AMC.

The main difference is that Netflix broadcasts all over the world using the Internet, while NBC and HBO have limited reach outside of the US using cable and/or OTA signals (and over the Internet too!).

House of Cards, Game of Thrones, Big Bang Theory, Gray's Anatomy. These are all just original shows of their respective networks.

In Hollywood an Original Show just means that it was shown exclusively in one place first.

Re:Netflix is getting huge, but can it get great? by bonesss on Thursday February 15, 2018 @02:33AM (#16382444)
> Netflix broadcasts all over the world using the Internet, while NBC and HBO have limited reach outside of the US

A merger of Netflix and HBO is such a face-smackingly obvious win/win I can't imagine why it hasn't happened already.

Netflix's service, reach, user data mining, and tech powering a hybrid content catalog of Netflix originals and HBOs library, which becomes a freebie/cheapie with an HBO cable subscription.

As it stands both companies are trying to become one another, with mixed results, and Disney is gonna try hard to eat both their lunches once Disneys Streaming Platform to Rule Them All is live...

Re:Netflix is getting huge, but can it get great? by sysbell on Thursday February 15, 2018 @04:02PM (#16387597)
> A merger of Netflix and HBO is such a face-smackingly obvious win/win I can't imagine why it hasn't happened already.

Because HBO isn't independently held; its owned by Time Warner.

Re:Netflix is getting huge, but can it get great? by bonesss on Friday February 16, 2018 @02:47AM (#16390663)
Conglomerates don't do M&A anymore?

And just keep pulling on that sweater thread: combining the subscriber platform of Netflix, the content & cable capabilities of HBO and their boxing connections, along with sweetheart win/win deals for streaming as much of Time Warners catalog as makes sense... That's exactly the kind of slightly-adult-oriented position I'd want to go head-to-head with Disney/ABC/Pixar/Lucasarts/ESPN in the forthcoming streaming war. Plus bigger budgets, which is a factor since Netflix is a verifiable money printing machine.

Re:Netflix is getting huge, but can it get great? by pvg on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @08:30PM (#16381237)
In the US 'television network' and 'network television' have specific meanings and HBO and Netflix are neither networks nor 'network tv'.
Re:Netflix is getting huge, but can it get great? by jedberg on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @08:40PM (#16381272)
It's a conflated term. There is the one you're working with, which is specifically about the technological method of distribution, and then there is the other meaning, which is used for content creation and licensing (and awards).

It is the second meaning which the author seems to imply and that I'm using here.

For example, the Emmy's (and the Hollywood Reporter, for example) consider NBC, ABC, HBO, Netflix, and Amazon to all be networks on equal footing.

Re:Netflix is getting huge, but can it get great? by pvg on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @09:36PM (#16381524)
It's not just about the technological method of distribution, it's about the structure of the entity, how it's regulated, etc. It's a pretty standard term and while it can have other meanings and the meaning can shift (as the strict original meaning becomes more, uh, meaningless), it seems weird to complain about that usage being somehow 'all over the place'. It means something most newspaper readers understand.
Re:Netflix is getting huge, but can it get great? by johnmaguire2013 on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @11:03PM (#16381822)
Who reads newspapers these days?
Re:Netflix is getting huge, but can it get great? by kitrose on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @11:57PM (#16382017)
> For example, the Emmy’s (and the Hollywood Reporter, for example) consider NBC, ABC, HBO, Netflix, and Amazon to all be networks on equal footing.

The trade papers may use ‘network’ interchangeably in Ye Grand Tradition of old school Deadline slang for TV, but nobody in the industry would ever confuse networks (read: ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX) with cable/premium/streaming channels.

Re:Netflix is getting huge, but can it get great? by r00fus on Thursday February 15, 2018 @12:33AM (#16382142)
As a mere set of eyeballs... why are they (E.g. Netflix vs CBS) different? And why should I care?

To me they are all channels. Just some don't allow binge watching or time-shifting well and others do.

Re:Netflix is getting huge, but can it get great? by robotresearcher on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @08:33PM (#16381253)
Plus the argument kinda petered out at the HBO also broadcasts on the internet part...
Re:Netflix is getting huge, but can it get great? by jedberg on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @08:40PM (#16381276)
What do you mean? I have had in the past an internet only HBO subscription via Sling TV.
Re:Netflix is getting huge, but can it get great? by robotresearcher on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @09:06PM (#16381402)
Paraphrasing: The main difference is that Netflix broadcasts via the internet while HBO broadcasts on cable and the internet.

So not a vast difference.

Re:Netflix is getting huge, but can it get great? by ghaff on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @09:44PM (#16381552)
As the cable TV bundle starts to peter out, all of these entities are just effectively studios, i.e. entities with money that fund TV shows/movies with various exclusive distribution rights for some periods.

One of the questions becomes what does the new bundle look like? (or the a la carte package.) Because there are pretty clearly a limited number of monthly subscriptions that most consumers are willing to pay for especially if they're in the >$10 range.

Re:Netflix is getting huge, but can it get great? by dageshi on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @09:49PM (#16381569)
For anyone outside the US it is. Or at least in the UK, I can't get watch HBO without jumping through VPN hoops.
Re:Netflix is getting huge, but can it get great? by mcintyre1994 on Thursday February 15, 2018 @08:52AM (#16383944)
Don't they license pretty much everything to Sky? NowTV costs about the same as Netflix, UX/UI is rubbish but you should get all their current HBO content.
Re:Netflix is getting huge, but can it get great? by robotresearcher on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @10:30PM (#16381710)
Hmm you are right. I thought they had at least a few of the big markets. But no, seems like US only.