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Re:The Case for Lowering Your Expectations by BrandonWatson on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @10:49PM (#16373302)
Happiness = reality - expectations

Remember that formula and you will be fine.

It's not a case for lowering your expectations, but it does set a framework for approaching different endeavours. It forces you to ask the question, if this goes amazingly well, how good is that really? Furthermore, it forces you to ask whether you are putting too much energy into your expectations. Finally, it's why slot machines (based on unexpected and uneven payouts) work so well. :)

Re:The Case for Lowering Your Expectations by rrdharan on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @11:48PM (#16373560)
While I don’t disagree with the thrust of your argument, the equation would seem to imply that happiness + expectations = reality and unfortunately I don’t think it quite works that way?
Re:The Case for Lowering Your Expectations by corysama on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @12:33AM (#16373715)
OK, I’ll bite. It does seem to match my observations that if your expectations are excessively high vs. reality then your happiness will be low. And, I have observed that people in truely... difficult(?) situations (living in North Korea/South African slums) are often still happy because what they hope for are the basics of survival, friendship and family.
Re:The Case for Lowering Your Expectations by hoopladler on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @06:00AM (#16374962)
I think there have been a number of studies showing that poverty does directly make people unhappy, though - or at the very least, happiness is definitely correlated with wealth. Being poor is extremely stressful. Being stressed is not necessarily going to make you unhappy, but it's certainly likely to.
Re:The Case for Lowering Your Expectations by Amygaz on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @09:08AM (#16375752)
There are numerous studies showing that people with basic need expectations are stressed but not depressed, while people who don't struggle about fulfilling basic needs, but have high luxury and social expectations are more depressed. Same thing has been shown at a the societal level in term of suicide levels.

Basically, the level of stress in a population or experienced by an individual has little to no correlation with happiness. The type of stress, especially the more insidious one, is probably more important.

Then, I'll add that it's all about your expectation. If we hope to put food on the table everyday, and we succeed most of the time, we will be proud and happy most of the time. If we expect to strike millions by being an entrepreneur, because we all know that we're nobody if we're not an entrepreneur, we will endure a roller-coaster of deception and small victories, with no quantifiable bearing on our success or lack thereof...

Re:The Case for Lowering Your Expectations by CalRobert on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @06:47AM (#16375109)
OK, maybe that should be

"let Happiness = reality - expectations"

Re:The Case for Lowering Your Expectations by CardenB on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @12:30AM (#16373711)
I think he’s saying that high expectations cause sadness which would cancel out the expectations and give you reality.

But it’s obviously an oversimplification

Re:The Case for Lowering Your Expectations by raducu on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @04:16AM (#16374576)
I understand it as -- if you can influence reality to meet your expectations, great, that leads to happiness, otherwise work on your expectations.

If "reality" means competing against other smart/driven humans, be prepared to lower your expectations.

Re:The Case for Lowering Your Expectations by 50 on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @11:34PM (#16373508)
That formula works well if you think you have a thousand serious moves to make [1].

I would say, come to know this and you will be fine: Happiness = your natural state

[1]: https://www.rootsnwings.in/pdf/15TrippingOverJoyMay05.pdf

Re:The Case for Lowering Your Expectations by bornonline1 on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @10:28AM (#16376409)
Thank you
Re:The Case for Lowering Your Expectations by doall on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @11:49AM (#16377136)
I like the overall idea of this equation, but IMO it seems to not hold for some cases. Think about some cases when reality is far lower than expectations or reality is very close to expectations but still lower than expectations. According to this equation, you will be very unhappy for the former case and less unhappy for the latter case, but I think this doesn't hold.

For example, in the winter olympics, there was a world class ski player that had been a champion for the world cups but not an olympic medalist. She already had been in positions like 7th, 6th, 5th, 4th and she just wanted nothing but a medal. In the Vancouver olympics, she went to the final round and was very close to winning a bronze medal, but finished in 4th place. She bursted into tears and clearly seemed very unhappy in the interview.

In the opposite case, if reality is far lower than expectations, like you couldn't even pass the qualification round, you can think that like an accident. I have seen this in the PyeongChang olympics that some good players not even passing the qualification round because of the windy weather. They clearly looked unhappy, but not bursting into tears, because blaming the wind will relax their unhappiness.

Re:The Case for Lowering Your Expectations by wiz21c on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @05:20AM (#16374825)
it sounds quite like some (admittedly oversimplified) views of Buddhism and alike : that is be in the present. When you are in the reality 100%, then your expectations are 0%, and the equation holds :-)
Re:The Case for Lowering Your Expectations by CuriouslyC on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @09:17AM (#16375813)
Sometimes living in the future can serve you though. People who look forward to something on occasion report being happier overall than people who have nothing to look forward to. As long as that doesn't prevent you from taking action in the present, why not?

Many well known Buddhists talk about not being dogmatic in the face of your mental activity, but merely taking a step back and asking yourself: Does this serve me?