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Re:Unilever threatens to pull its ads from Facebook and Goog... by tyfon on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @02:58AM (#16365471)
There is also absolutely no will in the marketing departments I've seen to measure negative effects of advertising, only the positive.

Myself I have an adverse effect when I see an ad for a product. I will actively try to avoid it as I feel if you have to advertise, the competition probably has a superior product.

Re:Unilever threatens to pull its ads from Facebook and Goog... by mcny on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @05:16AM (#16366061)
I completely agree. I feel this way for things that I think should not have to advertise. For instance, higher education. I saw a poster at Forest Hills 71 Avenue subway station for Queens College and now I feel like it is not a top class college.

I think my reaction would have been different of the ad was subtler though. Thoughts?

Re:Unilever threatens to pull its ads from Facebook and Goog... by magic_beans on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @06:04AM (#16366228)
Ads for colleges in the subway aren’t meant for you, though. You probably already have a college degree and are well-educated. Those subway ads are for people who aren’t as well-educated, never went to college and are trying to fit it in between working, and wouldn’t get into a top-tier college.
Re:Unilever threatens to pull its ads from Facebook and Goog... by ghaff on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @06:47AM (#16366404)
Exactly. The top-tier college in the city probably has a subway stop with its name in it. Those ads are aimed at someone who doesn't have a college degree and/or has been contemplating doing something positive about their career. So part-time/night college, nursing school, etc. ads are there to nudge them and to suggest a specific option for them to consider.
Re:Unilever threatens to pull its ads from Facebook and Goog... by xaqfox on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @10:08AM (#16367643)
I believe the thought was that if they were so prestigious they would not need to advertise at all. I have never felt this way about Universities, but I certainly have for defense attorneys.
Re:Unilever threatens to pull its ads from Facebook and Goog... by fjsolwmv on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @10:16PM (#16373136)
Of course they advertise. They just do it in subtle ways called PR.
Re:Unilever threatens to pull its ads from Facebook and Goog... by wastedhours on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @11:58AM (#16368641)
I used to do marketing for HE, and that always used to be the case - however the explosion in intakes has really skewed the market. Increase in tuition fees has also turned it into more of a transaction, so it's now less about selective prestige, and more about outcomes (which lends itself more to outward marketing than traditional reserved means).
Re:Unilever threatens to pull its ads from Facebook and Goog... by wastedhours on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @11:55AM (#16368614)
There is, but will is different than ability - I've done work on brand perception studies, which look at both the positive and negative, as well as conversion data looking at online ads that work from a vanity metric standpoint (views/clicks) but don't do anything else.

A lot of brands will try and piece together negatives - if you want to help a marketer, fill out that NPS popup you see ;)