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Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by craftyguy on Saturday February 10, 2018 @11:47PM (#16351252)
I'm amused that IRC is the only one of those you listed that is still alive and doing well.
Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by yborg on Sunday February 11, 2018 @02:32AM (#16351652)
It's alive, but I don't know about 'doing well'. It survives among some special interest communities, but the usage is tiny compared to any of the major platforms now. You won't find your uncle on it.
Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by ryanplant-au on Sunday February 11, 2018 @03:24AM (#16351764)
To be fair, I wouldn't have found him on IRC in 1998 either. IRC has really always been a relatively niche thing and I think it's fair to say it's doing well if you define that as remaining popular within the niches it's always been associated with. Though I think this is starting to change with the popularity of Discord.
Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by verylittlemeat on Sunday February 11, 2018 @05:25AM (#16352082)
Yes Discord is starting to really starting to dominate.

More and more often these days you'll find at the bottom of a community info page a discord rather than an IRC channel. Even big pirating communities are making the switch.

Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by rjbwork on Sunday February 11, 2018 @12:58PM (#16353781)
How does that work? I'm a regular in the C# Discord community and one of the rules we enforce and have to enforce regularly is no illegal or shifty activity (pirating, cracking, hacking, aimbots, cheating, etc.) because the discord admins don't take kindly to that sort of thing.
Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by TheSmiddy on Monday February 12, 2018 @01:47AM (#16356998)
Well there's obviously far too much conversation for the admins to actually snoop in on what everybody is saying so unless anybody in the group reports it then it would just fly under the radar.
Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by rstuart4133 on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @08:30PM (#16381238)
If you've been to an open source conference that lasts a week the pattern is always the same: the bulk of messaging ends up on IRC.

It doesn't start out that way. First you have a lot of people pushing their favourite barrows. Then they set up IRC gateways. Then they bleed users to IRC. I've been to a few conferences that keep actual statistics of messages published, and it's always the same.

But it's well hidden. No one gives up pushing their barrow, so if you just listen to the conference gossip you would never know it's happening.

Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by na85 on Sunday February 11, 2018 @12:39PM (#16353657)
>You won't find your uncle on it.

Bug or feature?

Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by ekianjo on Sunday February 11, 2018 @12:26AM (#16351329)
Openness and standards matter in the end.
Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by craftyguy on Sunday February 11, 2018 @01:11AM (#16351443)
I sure hope so!
Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by freeflight on Sunday February 11, 2018 @12:42AM (#16351378)
Afaik ICQ is still somewhat popular in eastern Europe.
Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by Joeri on Sunday February 11, 2018 @06:10AM (#16352200)
ICQ’s find a friend feature got me into contact with someone in south africa (I’m from europe), who I ended up visiting for a month.

It’s the sort of random encounter / friendship that you could have in the pre-2005 internet and that’s much harder today.

Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by thinkloop on Sunday February 11, 2018 @01:12AM (#16351447)
I don't actually remember why ICQ died, it was the best then there was MSN Messenger for some reason...?
Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by Al-Khwarizmi on Sunday February 11, 2018 @06:15AM (#16352206)
I think the main reason is because Windows XP included a basic MSN Messenger client enabled by default in 2001.

Indeed, ICQ was vastly superior. In fact, in my opinion, many of its features (such as the discovery features) have not been equalled since them. It was quite traumatic to me when it was replaced with MSN Messenger.

Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by dvanduzer on Sunday February 11, 2018 @02:35AM (#16351661)
AOL bought them. Slow burn.
Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by SyneRyder on Sunday February 11, 2018 @03:47AM (#16351818)
ICQ is now owned by the Russian company behind Mail.RU. AOL sold it for $187.5 million, less than half what they paid for it:

https://techcrunch.com/2010/04/28/aol-sells-instant-messagin...

Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by dec0dedab0de on Sunday February 11, 2018 @07:04AM (#16352335)
in my circle of friends it was because aim let you pick a username instead of a number
Re:How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare? by shagen on Sunday February 11, 2018 @08:22AM (#16352578)
I remember that they bloated up their client so much with menu bars, icons and later ads that it was not snappy anymore and required a lot of memory. So people where looking for alternatives.