Re:C++ and the Culture of Complexity (2013)
by blub on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @02:51AM
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We should all be thankful that the Java and C# communities have offered a welcoming home to all the architecture astronauts :)
Re:C++ and the Culture of Complexity (2013)
by gpderetta on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @08:19AM
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In the C++ community, that OO centric coding style is called the Java style, which is completely unfair, as it really originated in C++; it was just wholeheartedly embraced (and made more usable mostly thanks to GC) by Java.
Re:C++ and the Culture of Complexity (2013)
by tonyedgecombe on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @09:21AM
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It seems to me there is a minority of the community of any language that want to turn it into Java.
Re:C++ and the Culture of Complexity (2013)
by blattimwind on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @01:16PM
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*cough Zope
Re:C++ and the Culture of Complexity (2013)
by pjmlp on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @01:00PM
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They are now busy building micro-services architectures in more trendy languages. :)
Re:C++ and the Culture of Complexity (2013)
by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @01:17PM
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I suspect (but I am not certain) that any language that wants to work in that space is going to turn into Java EJB or C++ with CORBA and/or DCOM. I think it's the space, not the language, that produces such appalling monstrosities.
(And, if you needed that kind of thing, even EJB or CORBA was better than implementing that same functionality by hand...)
No parallel in C++?!!!??
That is where EJBs and Spring come from.
The enterprise architects that created those kind of designs, were the same ones that on earlier decade were doing them with C++.
Apparently micro-services are now a thing, well on the late 90's we had Sun RPC, CORBA, DCOM. All tied together with a cluster distributed transaction management.
Sprinkled with code generation tools, based either on UML or Booch diagrams.
It was lovely, then came Java with CORBA support out of the box, RMI and GC. So they moved camps.
And yes, I am also to blame for a few CORBA objects, maybe still runing on a couple of HP-UX systems.