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Re:Kodak’s Dubious Blockchain Gamble by patcheudor on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @06:17PM (#16270000)
>If this fails, it is quite possibly the last nail for Kodak..

The equivalent of the founder taking all the remaining company funds to Vegas and betting it all on black.

Re:Kodak’s Dubious Blockchain Gamble by ergothus on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @06:23PM (#16270047)
Were you referring to FedEx, or just pointing out the riskiness? https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/15/fred-smith-blackja...
Re:Kodak’s Dubious Blockchain Gamble by mstade on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @08:23PM (#16270604)
Wow, that is one heck of a story! As a business owner, some things come to mind:

- How do you explain (to the tax man, really) where the money comes from?

- Isn't this a gross misappropriation of company funds, and very much illegal?

- How does this guy find pants to fit his enormous balls?

Re:Kodak’s Dubious Blockchain Gamble by chx on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @03:33AM (#16272405)
The company got an investment from his personal funds. If you are asking about where he as a person got money, Vegas is legal and likely gives tax receipts.

He took a loan from the company; if he couldn't pay it back then yeah he is in deep trouble but he could.

Re:Kodak’s Dubious Blockchain Gamble by bonesss on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @04:26AM (#16272624)
So you're saying it's only a problem if I lose? Well I like those odds ;)

This actually triggered a random memory of some court-room drama where a quant embezzled a bunch of money to buy lottery tickets though a system he devised, won, and then got charged after paying back the stolen seed money... in hindsight he woulda gotten away with his fictitious crime if he were a CEO or boardmember...

Re:Kodak’s Dubious Blockchain Gamble by chx on Thursday February 01, 2018 @06:32PM (#16286959)
I believe only shareholders could.
Re:Kodak’s Dubious Blockchain Gamble by mstade on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @05:31AM (#16272883)
Wait, so which was it – he used $5000 of his own money or the company's?

I'm surprised loaning money from the company is legal in the U.S., it's certainly not here. Probably because then you can fairly easily create a tax evasion scheme where you never pay yourself a salary and just keep borrowing money at zero interest and payment due long about five years after the sun explodes...

Re:Kodak’s Dubious Blockchain Gamble by fyfy18 on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @06:09AM (#16273012)
I don’t know where “here” is, but in the U.K. it’s perfectly legal. You can even give yourself (as a director) an interest free loan.

However if the amount owed is greater than ~£10k(?) at the end of the corporate tax year, you need to pay it back within 9 months or it’s treated as income and taxed accordingly (there’s also regulations about paying it off before the end of the corporate tax year and taking out directly after). Still 21 months for an interest free loan isn’t bad...

Re:Kodak’s Dubious Blockchain Gamble by BrentOzar on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @06:05AM (#16272998)
> Probably because then you can fairly easily create a tax evasion scheme where you never pay yourself a salary and just keep borrowing money at zero interest and payment due long about five years after the sun explodes...

It's legal here in the US, but there are rules around minimum interest charges. I dealt with this during a partner buyout - the payment schedule HAD to have interest involved or else it was considered a fishy loan.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/7872

Re:Kodak’s Dubious Blockchain Gamble by chx on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @02:50PM (#16276953)
I wonder what "here" is, in Canada, generally, when you borrow funds from your company and don't repay it within one year, the CRA can assess the outstanding balance as ordinary income at an income tax rate similar to that of a salary.
Re:Kodak’s Dubious Blockchain Gamble by charlesdm on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @05:00PM (#16277937)
Where do you live? This is pretty much legal wherever, as long as you pay market rate interest rates on said loan.
Re:Kodak’s Dubious Blockchain Gamble by jpatokal on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @08:49PM (#16270707)
Pedantic nit: the FedEx story involved a punt on blackjack, which at least involves some skill and where you can eke out a thin theoretical edge against the house if you count cards, not on black as in roulette.
Re:Kodak’s Dubious Blockchain Gamble by matte_black on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @10:14PM (#16271023)
I believe the on black story was another company, not FedEx.
Re:Kodak’s Dubious Blockchain Gamble by CydeWeys on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @06:42PM (#16270160)
More like betting it all on a single number. Black has a nearly 50% chance of paying off for you; this cryptocoin gamble is way worse than those odds.
Re:Kodak’s Dubious Blockchain Gamble by TomK32 on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @03:34AM (#16272413)
You're better off opening a casino than betting it on Black.
Re:Kodak’s Dubious Blockchain Gamble by rbobby on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @07:38PM (#16270390)
> betting it all on black.

At the blackjack table.