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A comment on Ask HN: What are the end to end encrypted desktop messengers?.

Re:Ask HN: What are the end to end encrypted desktop messeng... by marksamman on Monday January 29, 2018 @10:10AM (#16257876)
Wire (https://wire.com/) is end-to-end encrypted, based on Signal protocol. It's open-source and cross-platform with mobile apps. I've been using it instead of Skype for two years and I don't regret that decision.
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Re:Ask HN: What are the end to end encrypted desktop messeng... by liotier on Monday January 29, 2018 @10:16AM (#16257919)
Looks interesting... But it is not federated, so one will not use it beyond team communications (which is a good start though)
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Re:Ask HN: What are the end to end encrypted desktop messeng... by hiq on Monday January 29, 2018 @11:27AM (#16258391)
What do you mean by "beyond team communications"?
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Re:Ask HN: What are the end to end encrypted desktop messeng... by liotier on Monday January 29, 2018 @11:44AM (#16258544)
You meet a random person and wish to connect on a chat/presence system - that is what I mean by "beyond team communications". Acceptability of such a system for that purpose either requires overwhelming adoption of a single provider (Whatsapp, Facebook Messenger) or federation (SMS, SMTP, XMPP back when Google had not yet killed it). Team communications does not suffer that acceptability requirement because tooling is hierarchically mandated.
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Re:Ask HN: What are the end to end encrypted desktop messeng... by etiam on Monday January 29, 2018 @01:41PM (#16259590)
I've been eying Wire for the interface and ease of installation. In terms of looks and handling it seems like one of the best options to hand to people with little technical interest/aptitude/patience.

Moxie Marlinspike has commented that Wire does not use the Signal Protocol but only took some components from it and created their own protocol, which he did "not recommend" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12690148 Has there been any changes to that situation?

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