Re:Promising Billions to Amazon: Is It a Good Deal for Cities?
by grecy on Saturday January 27, 2018 @11:20AM
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>They don’t have a choice to “tolerate” it or not
Of course they do. They vote out the politicians that allow multi-billion dollar companies to avoid their tax obligations and they vote in ones that don't.
Americans have utterly forgotten they are in charge of their country.
Re:Promising Billions to Amazon: Is It a Good Deal for Cities?
by tptacek on Saturday January 27, 2018 @12:33PM
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You're evading his point. You can vote out those politicians, but not giving breaks to companies isn't the only effect that will have; the other effect is that companies will stop moving into your state. Voters on message boards might be motivated by your notions of fairness, but real voters are motivated by jobs.
Re:Promising Billions to Amazon: Is It a Good Deal for Cities?
by mastax on Saturday January 27, 2018 @11:27AM
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NB: US federal corporate tax rate is now 21%
Re:Promising Billions to Amazon: Is It a Good Deal for Cities?
by rayiner on Saturday January 27, 2018 @10:53PM
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That's the headline federal rate. New York, Califorinia, or Illinois add another 7-9%, for 28-30% total. In the U.K., in comparison, the total rate is 19%. Sweden, Denmark, and Norway are 22-24% total.
They don’t have a choice to “tolerate” it or not. America is a completely free market internally, with no legal, language, or cultural barriers to companies moving around. States are perfectly free to offer more attractive terms to companies, and other states can either match those offers, or watch their economies pack up and move to Tennessee, Georgia, Texas, etc.
That said, lack of corporate taxation isn’t to blame for America’s ills. If you compare the US to Germany, Canada, or France, you don’t see those latter countries taxing corporations more. Indeed, the total tax burden is probably less. (Not just the paper rate, but the actual average tax rate after “loopholes”). The French “real” corporate tax rate is almost half of what it is in the US (the on-paper rate is like 1/3 of the US). They also don’t really tax their rich people more. Someone making a million dollars a year would pay similar taxes in New Jersey as in Canada or Germany. A Californian might pay less.
No, the real reason America’s public services are crumbling are (1) we are extraordinarily inefficient; (2) we tax the middle class far less than Canada, Germany, etc.