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Re:Moving efficiently in the CLI by Lio on Friday January 26, 2018 @05:22PM (#16243396)
As a dyed in the wool Vi user. I still want ctrl where I can reach it easily.

Ctrl-[ for escape and when in Insert mode, ctrl-h backspace; ctrl-w delete word; ctrl-u delete line; Ctrl-m return; ctrl-i tab, etc.

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Re:Moving efficiently in the CLI by sergeykish on Friday January 26, 2018 @07:02PM (#16243938)
I once swapped Ctrl and Alt and never looked back. It feels so natural and it happens to match Symbolics Space-Cadet Keyboards layout too http://xahlee.info/kbd/space-cadet_keyboard.html

Advised by http://xahlee.info/kbd/linux_swap_modifier_keys.html

    ! -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
    ! 2013-02-04 swap Alt and Ctrl http://xahlee.info/

    !  xmodmap -pke | egrep '(Control|Super|Alt|Menu)'
    ! keycode  37 = Control_L NoSymbol Control_L
    ! keycode  64 = Alt_L Meta_L Alt_L Meta_L
    ! keycode 105 = Control_R NoSymbol Control_R
    ! keycode 108 = Alt_R Meta_R Alt_R Meta_R
    ! keycode 133 = Super_L NoSymbol Super_L
    ! keycode 134 = Super_R NoSymbol Super_R
    ! keycode 135 = Menu NoSymbol Menu
    ! keycode 147 = XF86MenuKB NoSymbol XF86MenuKB
    ! keycode 204 = NoSymbol Alt_L NoSymbol Alt_L
    ! keycode 206 = NoSymbol Super_L NoSymbol Super_L

    clear control
    clear mod1
    keycode 37 = Alt_L Meta_L
    keycode 105 = Alt_R Meta_R
    keycode 64 = Control_L
    keycode 108 = Control_R
    add control = Control_L Control_R
    add mod1 = Alt_L Meta_L
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Re:Moving efficiently in the CLI by SmirkingRevenge on Friday January 26, 2018 @06:13PM (#16243659)
Im a broken record in this thread right now... for goodness sake, remap capslock to ctrl!!
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Re:Moving efficiently in the CLI by wyclif on Friday January 26, 2018 @06:51PM (#16243873)
That's the first thing I do when I start a new MBP.
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Re:Moving efficiently in the CLI by Lio on Saturday January 27, 2018 @03:20AM (#16245344)
Yep, me too. The second thing I do is to remap the right alt key (used to be a numeric keypad 'enter' key back on my original MacBook Pro) to a second ctrl key.

I'm always confused by laptop designers who only include one ctrl key. How are we supposed to properly touch type modifiers otherwise?

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Re:Moving efficiently in the CLI by henriquemaia on Saturday January 27, 2018 @04:05AM (#16245464)
> I'm always confused ...

Just stating the obvious: you’re not their target consumer.

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Re:Moving efficiently in the CLI by Lio on Sunday January 28, 2018 @02:40AM (#16250304)
Maybe, there's probably some truth to that.

Apple do make it easy to remap the Alt key though and include a terminal and CLI commands by default so they must have some interest in business from people like me. ;)

(I would like to start a campaign to get the Mac Unix science page back again https://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/apple-drops-science-...)

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Re:Moving efficiently in the CLI by mooreds on Friday January 26, 2018 @05:39PM (#16243492)
different strokes for different folks. I did not know about those insert mode keystrokes. Thanks!
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Re:Moving efficiently in the CLI by Lio on Saturday January 27, 2018 @03:15AM (#16245338)
Yeah, I have some problems with RSI in my right wrist (stop sniggering at the back).

I think it's mostly down to the way I twist to reach backspace rather than move my whole hand from the home row. Ctrl-h, Ctrl-w and Ctrl-m really help with that.

The only problem I have is that I don't know how to remap Ctr-m to return in X windows applications. I use Karabiner on a macOS and Gnome Tweak tool on Linux for the others.

It's somewhat frustrating to have different shortcuts in the terminal, where I spend most of my time and the browser where I spend most of the rest.

Edit: (If anyone can suggest a good way of mapping ctrl-m to return in Linux browsers I'd really appreciate it.)

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